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  • #90319
    glendas-girl
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    Sorry for my delayed response everyone – have managed to get Mum away a couple of times in the past couple of weeks, and computer access has been minimal! And I really loathe typing on my phone!!

    Back in September, Mum and Dad purchased the house next door to mine, up near Maryborough Queensland, overlooking the beautiful Mary River. It is the most beautiful place and Mum and Dad were planning to live out their retirement there, which was something we were all excited about, naturally. Then in October, Mum was diagnosed with this dreadful cancer, so you an imagine how it must have been to go from such an incredible high to such a devastating low. Mum’s immediate response was to say that she didn’t want to visit her new house again – she couldn’t see the point if she had no future there. Thankfully, she has moved forward from that reaction, and we have managed to get her up to the house twice, for a couple of extended stays! And she has really enjoyed it, and says she feels calm and happy there. I’m so grateful for this. She needs to be down in Brisbane for her treatment at the moment, but she’s seeing that she can still enjoy her house as a “get-away” at the moment, and who knows what might be ahead? One day at a time, and make the most of every opportunity, I think.

    Lainy, Catherine and Marion, thank you for your responses, and good words of advice. Do not have any info yet on the keytruda trial, but will post when I do – and will look at getting onto the compassionate use thing right away, Marion. Thanks for the link on blood clots also Marion – it was very informative. Always good to know the “why’s”of things!

    Sandie xx

    #90318
    middlesister1
    Moderator

    Dear Sandie,

    I wish the Gem/Cis was doing more, but very excited that it looks promising to get your Mum on keytruda. Just as every patient is different, our oncologist said that some have CC which is fast growing and some do not.

    Take care,
    Catherine

    #90317
    marions
    Moderator

    Sandie…there is some good news hidden in your report. I hope that the next Gem/Cis treatment will prove to be effective. I also like the additional clinical clinical trial option and the backup plan of compassionate use. Please know that the later must be initiated asap, as the process of approval can be somewhat lengthy.
    A few other points I would like to share with you: Metastases are notoriously difficult to treat.
    The way I understand it the following: multiplying tumors are indicative of changes in cell structure. In simple terms: tumor cells in metastases differ from that of the primary tumor and newly evolving tumors differ from that again and so on.
    Regarding blood clots: Gastro cancers activate the clotting system. This link helps you understand:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trousseau_ … malignancy
    I wish for all good things to come your way.
    Hugs,
    Marion

    #90316
    lainy
    Spectator

    Dear Sandie, My goodness you must have felt like you were on a seesaw or going through a revolving door. Do not despair as quite a few members had dismal results from GEM/CIS which is usually the first line of treatment and when they went on the next Chemo it worked. I will keep my fingers crossed for Mum to get on to the Keytruda. At least her tumor markers took a huge drop! The good news is that the ONCs believe that Mum can go on to try other things and that is huge and should bring your family hope! We try not to look back like wondering if the CC grew in 5 weeks. We really don’t know. The best thing is to only look forward the past is the past and now Mum knows she has some good fighting options. Tell her I said to put the pink boxing gloves on and fight!

    #90315
    glendas-girl
    Member

    Hi Everyone,

    Yesterday we got back the results of the first scan done to see how Mum is progressing on Gem/Cis. She’s had 2 rounds so far, and the response is “mixed”. according to her oncologists. There has been some small reduction in some lymph nodes, but a slight increase in the tumor itself (they think, as it’s ill-defined and hard to see), and slight increase in her other “multiple’ nodes in her lungs. There was also growth in the multiple nodes in her peritoneum and small bowel (we didn’t even know about those) and a new occurrence in her omentum. Also a small thrombus (blood clot) somewhere or other that I’m trying not to worry about. I was pretty gutted to hear that there’s growth and new developments – I was praying so hard for Gem/Cis to really make a difference! The weird thing is that her blood results are showing a continuing improvement in liver function (this has been steadily happening since the start of chemo) and her tumor marker has dropped from something like 40 000 (I think he said) to 13 000. I guess this is all part of the mixed response. At this point Mum’s oncologists want to try at least one more round of Gem/Cis just to make sure of the response – they will scan her again in a couple of weeks. My initial thoughts about this was that if the tumors are growing, isn’t that enough confirmation of how it’s working? But then I remembered the time lapse between scans. The scans they compared this recent scan to were done back in October, just a couple of weeks after diagnosis. There was a period of about 5 weeks between those first scans, and the start of Gem/Cis, where Mum had no treatment at all. Is it possible that growth/new spots occurred then and we just didn’t know about it? and maybe Gem/Cis has been holding it at bay since then? I guess this is why they want to keep going for a bit, just to make sure.

    In the meantime, they gave us the good news that a clinical trial is starting at the Royal Brisbane Hospital in February, featuring Pembrolizumab, and they are going to look at whether Mum can be included! I confess I nearly burst into tears at this good news, after the dismal news from the scan. I know that Mum may not be eligible for the trial – she has a thyroid problem – but Mum’s oncologists said that if she doesn’t meet the inclusion criteria, she may be able to apply for “Compassionate Use”. And failing that, there may be an option to fund it ourselves, just to see if Mum responds. I’m just so relieved that we may be able to give this a try!! When I first mentioned Keytruda to Mum’s oncologists right at the start, they gave me the impression that any access at all would be virtually impossible. I’m hoping like crazy that that’s about to change.

    So continuing on the emotional rollercoaster!!

    Sandie xx

    #90314
    glendas-girl
    Member

    Thanks for the Christmas wishes everyone, and for the diabetes advice, Tony and Julie. Mum now has an appointment booked with a new GP to discuss management of her diabetes! She has definitely been struggling to get it under control, and your explanations show us why. Mum asked her (now former) GP about her diabetes just after she was diagnosed, and he told her “don’t worry about it”! So hopefully her new GP will be more helpful with what is obviously an issue for her! It’s a bit alarming the things that get missed/brushed aside sometimes. Makes me very grateful for this community.

    Hope everyone had a great Christmas! Best wishes for the New Year!

    Sandie xx

    #90313
    iowagirl
    Member

    Sandie ,

    Tony is right. Along with the chemo, Gem/Cis, they do give bags of steroids which do send blood sugar through the roof sometimes. Mine would often go up over 400-450. I took 45 units of short actiing insulin by accident one time right after getting chemo and the steroids (instead of my long acting 45 units of Lantis) and it only brought it down half way. Normally, it would have dropped it into a dangerous low. The steroids are always something to be carefull about with diabetes.

    My blood sugar levels also would start to drop 2-3 days post chemo. However, for those days, the blood sugar was far too high. I wasn’t warned about this prior to getting chemo and my GP who monitors my blood sugar wasn’t advised, so I did not have a plan in place to offset that huge rise in blood sugar.

    I just had the opportunity to meet with Mayo Clinic diabetes managers and they were surprised that someone had not overseen my diabetes and blood sugar during the chemo. They said that it should be actively managed during that time to keep the numbers from going up so much.

    As Tony suggested, I would imagine that might possibly include some insulin as a more natural way to keep the numbers down.

    Julie T.

    #90312
    gavin
    Moderator

    Thanks for the update Sandie. Making this Christmas a good one, I like that idea! Hope that you and your family do indeed have a good one!

    Hugs,

    Gavin

    #90311
    marions
    Moderator

    Sandie…..wishing you and your family a Happy Holiday Season.
    Hugs,
    Marion

    #90310
    lainy
    Spectator

    Dear Sandie, there is all kinds of news and I would consider this with the GOOD news. Sometimes a quiet Holiday is just right. Hope Mum continues her progress and wishing for another great report in January.

    #90309
    middlesister1
    Moderator

    Sandie,

    Thanks for checking in. I’m happy to hear the chemo side effects have been tolerable so far. I hope in Jan we hear that the chemo did wonders.

    Merry Christmas to you and your family!

    Catherine

    #90308
    kernos
    Member

    Glad to hear chemo is going well Sandie.

    Has she seen the DE since being diagnosed with cancer?

    On the gem/cis chemo I was given a steroid with it and for the next 2 days, that steroid raises your base blood sugar level. Apparently a fair few diabetics go on insulin for this reason whilst on chemo.

    If she is on metformin as well to help with the diabetes there are other things the DE/Endo will want her to keep an eye on also.

    I hope Christmas is a good one

    Tony

    #90307
    glendas-girl
    Member

    I’ve been gone for a while, so a belated thank you to Darla and tony for responding to my last post, and for extending your support.

    Tony, thanks for your advice. Mum has seen a diabetic educator and is trying hard to control her diabetes with diet. She does find though, that after a dose of the Gem/Cis, her blood levels seem to skyrocket – she’s putting this down to stress? After a day or so, the levels drop back down again. I will ask about the podiatrist – she is only into round 2 of the chemo, and so far has very few side effects – mainly just fatigue, but doubtless the cumulative effect of the Gem/Cis will tell on her eventually.

    She’s had one appointment with the surgeon who basically just reiterated that she is inoperable, and she has another appointment on the 6th January. I think these appointments are just to keep an overall check on what’s going on – as you say, how the conveyor belt works!

    So we are about 10 weeks into diagnosis, and Mum so far is taking the chemo well, much to my relief. They will do a scan after the third round to see if it is having any effect. I am praying like crazy that it does. I am really relieved that the chemo hasn’t knocked her too much so far. She did end up back in hospital with a mystery infection after the first dose, but that was controlled quickly, and she actually seems to be improving as she goes. In fact, she’s almost back to ‘normal’ apart from being a bit tired. She has no/little pain and her appetite is still good. And she is in good spirits, and thinking positively, finally. I guess we all need time to come to terms with the whirlwind that is going on around us!

    So we are ready for a quiet Christmas tomorrow, here in Australia, and I intend to make it a good one!! I would just like to thank everyone here for their advice and support, and wish you all a very Merry Christmas and a hopeful, positive New Year. May 2016 bring the best for all of us!

    Sandie xx

    #90306
    kernos
    Member

    Hi Sadie, sorry to hear your news.

    I would also recommend your mother sees a Diabetic Educator and a podiatrist as well as the nutritionalist. She can see them under her diabetic care plan and probably only needs to see the DE and nutritionalist once just to get a rundown on things she can expect.

    I also have Diabetes and was on the same regime as your mum. It can be harsh on the nerve endings in our extremities as can diabetes which is why I recommend the podiatrist under the care plan.

    Taking care of the diabetes will also help with the cancer and it is something she is familiar with.

    As for why you need to see the surgeon. I had to see one also a couple of times before I was passed on to an oncologist. Thats just how the conveyor belt works in our public system, not saying it’s bad it just seems to be the order of things. I guess because surgery is the preferred first option.

    Good luck

    Tony

    If you are looking around for clinical trials apparently cancers of unknown origins are another category we can fall into.

    #90305
    darla
    Spectator

    Dear Sandie,

    You are definitely not alone. We all understand what you are going through and are here to help and support you in any way that we can. Feel free to ramble on all you want or need to. We are here to listen.

    Take care and update us on your Mum when you can.

    Hugs,
    Darla

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