Any suggestions…brother is to sick for treatment…what now?

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  • #48474
    ronidinkes
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    I would see if you can get a hopsital transfer to Mayo or another major CC center, and they can transport him safely. keep me posted.
    Hugs,
    ronidinkes@yahoo.com

    #48473
    jaynus
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    Alglog, my mother also has a stent and was told repeatedly to cap the drains but everytime she did it made her very sick. When you cap off the drains it keeps the bile inside you which is needed for digestion but when she closed them off it backed up insider her and made her very ill. Her alternative doctors told her to leave it open and listen to her body as that is the only time she felt better so that is was she did. They tried to take away her external drain bag since they were convinced the mental stent inside was working fine but she insisted on keeping the drain bag so she could control clamping and unclamping. She leaves it open all the time now and feels quite better. She was also rejected for chemo and radiation because they thought she was too weak, in fact they only gave her 2 months to live but now 5 months later and after herbal supplements and heavy accupuncture therapy she has regained her color, maintained weight and gotten back some energy. On her lost oncologist visit they said they were very impressed by her improvement and are now going to start her on some chemotherapy! There is always hope. If he feels better with the clamp open keep it open and talk to his doctor.

    good luck!
    Janet

    #48472
    marions
    Moderator

    Algog…..Additionally you might want to speak with a radiation oncologist familiar with this disease. Please, stay in touch and let us know about Wednesday’s consult.
    All my best wishes,
    Marion

    #48471
    alglog
    Spectator

    Also forgot to mention we have had 3 oncologists tell us that Gabriel’s prognosis is so poor that they believe if they tried to treat Gabriel with chemo and radiation, they feel it would hasten his death.

    #48470
    alglog
    Spectator

    I have a friend at my work who has a cousin who is a liver doctor at the Mayo Clinic. He along with some colleagues reviewed some of Gabe’s latest records and scans. What this dr came back with is they believe Gabriel has multiple peripheral metastases in the liver. I am not too sure what that means exactly. We go see the oncologist on Wednesday, so I plan to ask that. If anyone may know anything about that, please let me know. Thanks for all the responses, it is muchly appreciated!

    #48469
    gavin
    Moderator

    Hi Alglog,

    Welcome to the site. Sorry that you had to find us and I am sorry to hear about your brother Gabriel. Did your brothers doctor say why exactly Gabriel is no longer a candidate for a lover transplant. I find it strange that hospitals won’t accept your brother because of his health and bilirubin levels. I can’t help in recommending other hospitals as I am in the UK. But here are some links that may be of use to you.

    Here is a list of some of the major treatment centres in the USA –

    http://www.cholangiocarcinoma.org/majorcancercenters.htm

    And here is a list of treatment centres and physicians that was created by the members here –

    http://www.cholangiocarcinoma.org/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=3126

    Hopefully some of these will be of use to you in finding a hospital for your brother. Please keep coming back here and we will do what we can to help. And if you have any questions then ask away and the great members here will do what they can to help in answering them. I so agree with what Lainy and Susan have said about seeking other opinions, and also about finding out as much information as you can about cholangiocarcinoma. The more information you have the better informed you will be. Please let us know what happens on Monday.

    My best wishes to you and Gabriel,

    Gavin

    #48468
    slittle1127
    Member

    Dear Alglog –

    I was going to say the same thing that Lainy said – SECOND OPINION, THIRD, if needed. Contact Mayo and others. I would encourage you to maintain a positive outlook and attitude despite the difficult roller coaster ride that CC provides. You’re up and you’re down, but you are not alone. Keep us posted. Blessings to you, your brother, and your family. Susan

    #48467
    lainy
    Spectator

    Dear Alglog, welcome to our wonderful family but sorry you had to join us.
    It is extremely important to find out if Gabriel’s Oncologist has treated CC before. We strongly urge 2nd and 3rd opinions. The higher bilie rubin could be due to an infection in the stints or the cancer itself. Honestly I have never heard of a hospital turning down a patient because of high B.R. I really think you need to see another doctor. Has Gabriel’s doctor mentioned Chemo or other treatments? I don’t understand why he would cap the drains. Plese read up as much as you can about CC, you can even google it on the internet or look at our past posts on this site. Knowledge is powerful. Also there are quite a few members here who have had liver resections successfully with CC. I am very sorry but something just doesn’t sound right to me. Who is going to the Hospital Monday with Gabriel for his stint exchange? I would make a list of questions for the doctors and I would also take a tape recorder or write down what they tell you. Please keep us posted and let us know how Monday turns out.

    #48466
    alglog
    Spectator

    Also any suggestions on how to lower the bilirubin level? He has tubes that drain the bile, but from time to time, the dr.’s will tell him to cap the drains. Not sure what that means or if that is helping him any? He has an appt this monday to get his tubes changed, so we will ask more questions. But we appreciate any suggestions.

    #4837
    alglog
    Spectator

    My brother Gabriel, who is only 23 years old, got diagnosed with Cholangiocarcinoma about 2 months ago. He was awaiting a liver transplant for over a year due to some liver problems in his bile duct. We were being seen at the University of CO hospital where he was eventually going to get the transplant. Now that he has the cancer he is no longer a candidate for the transplant. The problem now is he is loosing weight, currently 105 lbs, and his liver is getting worse. His bilirubin is at a 21. All the hospitals we have called won’t take him cause he is too sick and his bilirubin is too high. I need to know if there is anyone out there that can help him. He is so young and we need someone’s help. I appreciate anyone that has any information.

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