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May 5, 2011 at 3:03 am #50130mlepp0416Spectator
Betsy: My husband Tom had a ‘bile leak’ from the cut side of his liver for 7 1/2 months after his Liver resection. His ‘leak’ was the longest that his surgeon had ever seen. Hopefully yours will consider healing over soon.
Margaret
May 3, 2011 at 8:21 pm #50129marionsModeratorHi Val….you always amaze me with your incredible sense of humor. Things have been rough for you and I am hoping for things to be on the upswing now. Regarding the operation: it is not known to be the most attractive however, it is not visible on the outside and….it does the trick. Now, if we could just get you to heal and to regain your strength.
Hugs and all my best wishes,
MarionMay 3, 2011 at 8:11 pm #50128lainySpectatorVal, your humor will get you far! Teddy had a lot of the same problems as you and Bob, fistulas and all but we dealt with everything with humor. When I used to change his drainage bags I would hold my nose and he would laugh but then feel bad for me. There was not much we didn’t do without humor and lots of love. You are doing fine girl, and you are such a good example for all our newbies. Keep it up!
May 3, 2011 at 8:00 pm #50127valjeeMemberHi again all!
Thank you for all your kind & supportive comments, I even took myself off to a car boot sale (I know you guys across the pond call them something else but I can’t remember at this moment!)at the farm next door yesterday. I drove, as it’s about 500 yards, not far but too far yet when I’d have to walk round the field & then walk home. it was so good to just get out, on my own if only for half an hour or so.Lainey, I have indeed worn much too yellow! I’m almost scared to wear it now in case it reflects on my face – like buttercup flowers!
Thanks Nancy, I think my sense of humour does get me through a lot – I think it’s got even more ‘black’ lately – I was thinking of calling myself ‘Dead Woman Talking’! Hope that doesn’t offend anyone, I find I have to deal with all the horrors in this way or they’ll take me over.
Charlotte, may you find a Greek God soon! Thank You.
Bob & Betsy, it’s nice to have 2 others who know almost exactly how it is. The drinking (& continual trips to the bathroom!), the drainage bags, appetite problems, blah blah. I know our respective problems are all slightly different, but the effects are similar.
Bob, I truly hope you’re recovering well from your surgery.Betsy, oh Betsy, how I know the lethargy & inability after all the procedures. Can’t tell you how much I’m looking forward to the next drain replacement….NOT!
I know it’s horrible for you too but it is of comfort to know that there is someone else knowing how it is, although I think your ongoing problems are even worse than mine. Just one day at a time eh? It’s about all you can do. Fistulas are the most awful things, I had one previously, nothing to do with this illness but another problem. It does seem to be sorted finally but I don’t talk about that now for fear of raising the spectre again!My surgeon doesn’t want to do any more surgery either as I found out during the recent admission that I’ve had far more done than I knew – or frankly want to know! I must say the latest CT pictures were interesting, the Roux-en-Y loop is a most odd looking thing & I seem to have what i can only call a bionic bridge holding bits together.
I’m glad you’re still making plans – I have some of them, I can’t quite see that I’m going to be employable in the normal way again, only in things that I really don’t want to do! Well, maybe I could be an extra on True Blood – I have suitable scars….. Keep on keeping on, are you still watching Eddie Izzard?
Thank you Julia & family & Laura, big smoofs & hugs all round! xxx
May 3, 2011 at 7:25 am #50126betsySpectatorHi Val,
So good to hear from you. Anymore, I start the fear the worst when someone stops posting. Your recent hospitalizations sound very scary. So sorry to hear you have been so sick but I join the others in saying I’m glad you’re feeling better, very glad you are still here and you are one tough cookie. XOUnfortunately, I’m still stuck with my 3 drainage bags. My doctors tell me a fistula has formed. They injected a fibrin glue into the leak but the bile ate it away. Last week, they tried injecting pure alcohol into the leak hoping to kill the cells lining the fistula – then that whole area would collapse and the leak would stop. So far, it doesn’t seem to be working either. I have more drainage now than I did before the procedure. These procedures take a lot out of me and it takes me about a week before I can get up and about again. I get stuck in this cycle of headaches, nausea and dehydration. My surgeon still wants to avoid surgery because he is not certain he can fix this problem and could potentially make it much worse. So, I guess the plan for now is to try whatever they come up with and hope something works……..my doctor keeps saying, “…in my 13 years of practice, I’ve never had a bile duct leak not heal”. Personally, I think I’m destined for surgery again. I am able to get around o.k. and have energy for simple things before becoming too tired. I may try to go back to school in the Fall….just depends on where I am. Who knows, maybe the fistula will spontaneously heal and this time next year, this will all just be a memory.
Betsy
May 3, 2011 at 3:10 am #50125charleaSpectatorWhat a great attitude! My favorite quote comes from your comment about your Greek God. I’m still waiting to have a handsome young doctor taking care of me and I am 67. Your great sense of humor must carry you a long way. I’ll pray for your continued progress.
CharlotteMay 2, 2011 at 8:10 pm #50124lalupesSpectatorLaura is smooooofing at you with all the hugs & sloppy kisses a self-absorbed calico-tabby can manage!!
Lots of love from Julia, Susan, Nanette (our mum) & Laura xxxx
May 2, 2011 at 4:51 pm #5012332coupeSpectatorHi Val,
Whooo. You are one tough ‘hombre’. A mere mortal couldn’t have pulled this off. I am so pleased that there is no recurrance, no organ failure and that you are again feeling better. It’s hard to remember that these drain bags drain off fluids which must be replaced. I feel like I’m ‘pushing’ fluids to keep hydrated and to keep from being light-headed and wobbly. May God continue to be your shield…bob
May 2, 2011 at 4:16 am #50122nancy246SpectatorHi Val, I do not know you yet but got a great introduction above. You are an inspiration! What a trooper! Sounds like you went throught the ringer recently and have come out the other end in better shape!
Good news on the no recurrence of tumours. Keep it up girl!
Hugs. NancyMay 1, 2011 at 10:28 pm #50121lainySpectatorOh, Val, I am so sorry about everything you have had to go through. I replied on your other post first. I tell you there is nothing like a good looking, fantastic doctor. Sure helps. I remember some years ago having my gall bladder out and I didn’t want to go to sleep as the anesthiesiologist was Italian (I love Italians)and I knew our relationship would be over when I awoke! I am keeping everything crossed for you now as I think you have worn enough yellow. Time to change colors. Love Me!
May 1, 2011 at 9:41 pm #5090valjeeMemberHi All! Haven’t been on the site for some time again, as is my usual way, I’ve been through the mill again & as the broadband only works when it thinks it will it’s all been rather too much effort! I still think of you all often though.
I’ve been really jaundiced since Christmas & the longer it’s gone on the worse I was feeling. The itching, the loss of appetite, blah blah, I’m sure there are plenty of you who know exactly what I’m saying! The surgeons/radiologists had real trouble trying to get it all under control.
I’ve had the bile drainage bag on, off, on again, unfortunately that was pretty much the cause of my latest crisis – I’m feeling extremely fortunate to have reached my 51st birthday on Good Friday- it was a very close call this time.
I had to put the bag back on about 5-6 weeks ago when the drain started backing up again & I kept waking up wet….. YUCK! The output kept increasing & as I was feelling so rough I took my eye off the ball, wasn’t really drinking as much as I should have been, or eating as I would normally do, I had a really dreadful week, started vomiting, then didn’t want to eat, long story short, 3 saturdays ago I collapsed, literally, was quite unable to move anything, I managed to get myself sitting on the floor lying against the bed.
My Mum called the ambulance and I think the first paramedic on the scene thought I was joking saying that I couldn’t move. Eventually the second crew arrived & decided to load me up & cart me off to A&E in Plymouth.I was dealt with really quickly & soon appeared on the scene a delightful doc from the ICU. She told me she was going to admit me to ICU, at which I declared I couldn’t possibly be THAT ill! She kept loking at me in a very strange way while I kept talking & asking questions, like something wasn’t quite right. My cousin Keith & his wife Kathryn had come along to lend support in the mean time so I’ve heard anything I didn’t remember, which wasn’t much to be honest.
I was in the Hi-Dependency satellite section of ICU as I didn’t need ventilating & was in there for 5 days. Such wonderful people – they saved me without a doubt. I had gone into renal failure along with marked cardiac changes, my potassium was very high & all electrolites right up the shoot.
I was discharged into the liver unit, my favorite consultant hepatologist (Jon Mitchell) back in charge. He told me a few day later that my sodium level of 1.7 on admission was in fact ‘incompatible with life’ & I should have died, they really had no idea how I’d survived, let alone kept on talking & asking questions! I told him I was made of pretty tough stuff & not planning on going away anytime soon!
Fortunately my kidneys recovered to almost full function in about 4 days, no dialysis or other invasive stuff, other than the usual stuff in the jugular vein – I have the ‘vampire’ style scars as my badge of honour!
I’ve now been home about 10 days, most of my coordination seems to have recovered although I’m still slow at walking, I have stopped ‘tacking’ now. My hands seem to have stopped their tremors, which is good cos I kept knocking things over! I almost got stuck in the loo yesterday whist at a good friend’s 80th birthday party!There was nothing on the walls for me to haul myself up with – must remember to use the disabled loos for a while I completely recover!
Three weeks on, I’m feeling better than I have done for months, barring the slow walking etc. My jaundice is greatly improved, Billi Rubin 116 last week, the lowest since about october/November last year. Currnetly I am a drain bag free zone but am completely paranoid about the drain leaking as it caused soooo many problems whilst in hospital! I’ve lost about 5 & half stone (77lb) over the last 3 years & now have my hair really short so lots of people don’t recognise me – which I find rather funny!
I’m now waiting to have an even larger drain put in, the radman that saw me 2 weeks ago was the one that did the surgical stuff last July – he told me we’d met – I knew I wouldn’t have forgotten that face! But of course I was deeply unconcious at the time! No less than a Greek God! He said he’d been working in the States for a few months so if any of you have been fortunate enough to see Surgeon Commander Mac Armstrong (Royal Navy) I hope you enjoyed it as much as me! I believe my surgery last year was only scheduled when my surgeon knew the day he could get Mac to do his bit – Mr Stell was having no-one else do the job, so it seems he has a reputation to match his looks. And manner, extremely good at explaining everything.
So still ‘no evidence of recurrence of the tumour’, I’m 2 years post op now, which was a huge relief, a lot of the recent weight loss is down to malabsorption caused by the drain bag, it had caused almost total dehydration & caused some serious liver malfunction because of this. Hopefully it will carry on draining internally until the new drain is sorted & thereafter! In the mean time I’m back mostly with the hepatologists, who have a different view of things than the surgeons & at this point I’m not unhappy about that, they had the diagnosis sorted within days.
I guess Betsy & Bob are the only others I know of who have similar long term drainage problems – it seems it’s a very rare complication of the surgery. Hopefully time will bring more experience & we can all be sorted out! Bod I truly hope your problems will resolve after your surgery. it is horrible trying to ‘live’ with all the attendant troubles.
I’m now anaemic, to add to the fun & games, but not seriously so, more nuisance value.best wishes to you all, old & new members, I miss Kris & Teddy’s repots dreadfully, despite not being on line, some of the bravest, most unselfish folk i have ever to fortunate enough to have contact with.
Val x
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