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  • #96722
    taylorjm
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    Yup, do a search for cannabis oil and you’ll get all kinds of info on it. My mother in law was taking it for 6 months while on chemo, and hasn’t been on any treatment except the cannabis for the past 6 months because everything was stable.  Make sure you get the high thc oil, not the cbd. The cbd is used for pain and nausea to treat the side effects of chemo and cancer. The high thc oil is the one that claims to kill the cancer.

    #96721
    Scottish Lass
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    Thank you for your replies. I live in Scotland so i dont know where i would even start to be able to get THC oil. I need it more urgently than beng able to start growing my own! CBD oil is now legal here but there sint a pint in getting that if it wont be in the least bit effective?

     

     

    #96719
    taylorjm
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    I’m going to disagree with the thc/cbd ratio discussed here. My research shows that the cannabis oil needs the thc levels to be over 90% for it to be effective against cancer.  My mil had 6 months of gem/cis chemo, showed a huge reduction in the size of the tumors, and now has gone the past 6 months without any kind of therapy except the cannabis oil.   She’s only taking a little more than a maintenance dose, about 4 grams a month, but for the past 6 months, it has remained stable and hasn’t gotten worse, so they aren’t going to start any new therapy until it changes for the worse. She is getting the oil made with girl scout cookie, which is already about 28% thc.

    #96710
    beatriz
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    Scott,

    For cancer or any other critical illness you need (1) find a reputable dispensary or cannabis maker (2) what I mean by reputable is the product needs to be accompanied by lab results which clearly outines the % of CBD, % THC, % CBDA,% THCA, a% of other terpenes of the plant AS WELL AS the potency (anything below 60% is not worth it) (3) For Cancer you need the whole plant extract (google entourage effect) not just one isolated cannabidiol molecule whehter it is CBD or THC, it MUST be the whole plant. For instance, my dog and I use a high CBD oil which is 20:1 (meaning 20 parts CBD to 1 THC). For cancer, the best ratio out there is 1:1 meaning 1 part CBD and 1 part THC.

    If you live in a state where you can get a medical card, please do so. Also search for cannabis doctors that can best guide you with dosing and ratios. I can give you two names of two that work out of California but they can do phone consults worldwide (note: by law they cannot sell you cannabis or give a medical card but they can sure guide you where to get them) one is Dr. Allan Frankel out of Santa Monica Los Angeles CA and the other one is Calla Spring Wellness out of San Francisco both are experts in dealing with cancer diagnosis. Just for your own education google Zelda Theraupeutics Pancreatic Cancer Clinical Trial so you can read how cannabis researchers have paired up with oncologist in clinical trials abroad (Australia) and recently they have made progress in the area of breast, brain, and pancreatic cancer.

    I hope this helps.

    #96709
    Scottish Lass
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    Hi,

    does anyone have an update on how the cannabis oil is working? is using CBD oil/Charlottes web as effective? i dont know where i could get a trustworthy source of the THC oil from

    Thank you

    #96571
    taylorjm
    Participant

    Wow. $1200/3 grams?  $400 a gram?  Wow.  I’m getting it for my MIL from a neighbor that’s a caregiver at $30/gram. And this is the high THC strain, not the CBD stuff you can buy online.  We just bought a second 30 gram dosage that should last a few months for $800.

    #96553
    hercules
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    Rosi, most doctors don’t embrace cannabis for medicinal use. It is a new pharmaceutical technology that is evolving on it’s own since the federal government has continued to foot drag on rescheduling the drug. The only thing that has drawn the attention of lawmakers is the potential source of money. What other lifesaving drugs are taxed by every level of government that can put their hand out ? Are chemotherapy drugs heavily taxed by federal, state, and municipal taxes ? This makes it too costly for many patients that need it, I sponsored a woman with cholangiocarcinoma that lived in New York and cannabis oil was 1200.00 for 3 grams, sadly too costly for an unproven treatment for her. Her cancer took her and she never was able to even try it. Medical cannabis should be tax exempt for all patients that need it, recreational is a different story, tax it like all other vices, however medical cannabis should be available and affordable to all. I have used cannabis since my surgery, and I cannot say it is why my cancer hasn’t returned, however it is part of what I have done, I changed my diet to more healthy foods, no grease lower fat, daily exercise in fresh outdoor air if possible, and just take care of yourself. I have gotten twelve years of cancer free life after cc, I have had no chemo, no radiation, just surgery and what I have mentioned here, and I believe cannabis research will unlock a cure for cancer or treatments with fewer side effects than chemo, I wish you the best, Pat

    #96523
    taylorjm
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    Right now my MIL is on a 3 month break from the first 6 months of being on gem/cis chemo.  She had a bought of the flu so she didn’t take the cannibis oil capsules for a couple weeks. She’s going to have another cat scan at the end of February to see what has happened in the last 3 months, then determine if there’s a next phase of treatment.   So far, the results are fantastic, but we will see in a month.  One thing to mention, people talk about taking cannabis for pain and inflammation, or to help with the side effects of chemo. There’s two types of cannabis and it depends on the strain the oil is made from. The most common you hear of it the CBD oil. That’s for pain, nausea, etc. You shouldn’t feel the psychotropic effects from that. That’s the type that most doctors will tell you are fine and you can take it.  The other strain is from the sativa strains of the plants. That’s the one Rick Simpson made famous. It’s very high THC. It won’t help with pain or nausea, but many have reported that it cures the cancer. That’s the one that doctors say are rubbish, there’s no such thing, blah, blah.  Well what do you expect them to say?  Do you have any clue how much money is made treating cancer in the US?  There will never be a cure for cancer made by a pharmaceutical company. They aren’t in the business to cure one of the most profitable diseases in the world.  Have you read about how numerous doctors that have been using cannabis to cure cancers, and are starting to publish papers have ended up dead in the past year? Google how many holistic doctors have died of “suspicious” circumstances.  In the case of my MIL, she is taking the high THC, sativa strain. It give some psychotropic effects but she takes it at night and sleeps it off.  Her inoperable, incurable cancer that she had only 8 months to live, is now in month 10.  75% of it has mysteriously disappeared. The doctors hoped to just stop it from getting any worse, and have no explanation as to why it’s getting better.  In total, the 8 months of cannabis cost about $1500.  So even if it didn’t work, it’s not like we were out a bunch of money.   Now that I said this, if I end up “mysteriously” dying tomorrow, you’ll know why!  Good luck!

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by  taylorjm.
    #96506
    beatriz
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    Positivity,

    Sorry to hear about your mom and my only 2 cents is that Cannabis does work when properly dosed by an Medical Doctor who specializes in it and when it is early in the cancer treatment. Unfortunately, Cannabis is not a one-size-fits all miracle and with its classification of Schedule 1 drug it is very hard for Research and Development in this country (Elli Lily the drug manufacturer in the 1930’s used to sell cannabis tinctures and they were marketed for various illnesses including cancer, it is beyond me why the turn of events into a schedule 1 drug, maybe loss of profits since a plant cannot be patented). That is why the research happening outside of the USA is so important as clinical trials are happening in Spain, Australia, Chile, etc..for different ailments and I am glad to see they are including pets as well.

    Cannabis can alleviate some pain and inflammation and thus is a wonderful supplement at any point specially during hospice. And I will say it over and over again for THERAUPEUTIC dosage people need a medical doctor (for example, Dr. Allan Franke out of L.A, Dr. Bonnie Goldstein out of L.A, Calla Springs Wellness out of San Francisco along with Mara Gordon from Aunt Zelda just to mention a few reputable ones)….if you want to learn more search for Mara Gordon on youtube and she is the founder of Zelda Theraupeutics in Australia which is conducting clinical trials on different diseases (including pets) and Mara usually goes around the globe and sits with medical doctors, researchers, etc…so she is a key resource to learn from.

    Yes! cancer takes years to form and imaging can only pick it up when the tumor is of a certain size.

    #96485
    positivity
    Participant

    Thanks for the question, as this is the same one I have.

    To briefly share the story, even though I have multiple posts.  Mom was inoperable and we decided on no treatment, only palliative care.  This is going over a year after diagnosis, but found out with research that she has had this awful tumor for about four years not, obviously getting worse.  The worst part was those stent exchanges!  Anyway, long story short, last recommendation was hospice.  She was prescribed Norco and Dilaudid for different levels of pain, Dilaudid when it’s unbearable.  Atarax for jaundice itching, which isn’t as effective anymore so relies on Norco.  Now since in obvious circumstances there is nothing to lose, I will check into cannabis for pain management.  This is something so difficult to even convince her to use.  Once she tries it, I will share. Seriously, if someone is recommended at hospice what can one lose? Either it works or doesn’t and that’s it!  This has been an endless challenge, and more power to everyone who is fighting this illness.  I really have to thank everyone, patient and caretaker who tries hard to help.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by  positivity.
    #96471
    beatriz
    Participant

    Taylorjm,

    Curious to know if the continued used of Cannabis is still proving to work for your Mother in Law….if you can share any updates, it will be highly appreciated.

    #96183
    taylorjm
    Participant

    My MIL has been taking a low dose of cannabis oil, the high THC simpson type, for the past 6 months. She’s apprehensive about it and only takes it once at night. She’s finally up to .5g a night, I would like her to take 1g eveyr 24 hours but not sure we will get there.  After 6 months of it and just getting a pet scan, her condition has improved dramatically. She was on chemo, gem/cis but has been missing alot in the past couple months because of her bloodwork not bouncing back.  One 3cm tumor and several small tumors in her liver completely disappeared and the larger 7cm tumor is down 50% in size. They gave her 8 months to live with chemo. She’s in month 7.  Needless to say we were surprised. Was it the cannabis?  Was it the chemo? Who knows?  She’s a believer now because the doctor had no explanation as to why the cancer is disappearing.  He was hoping to just stop it from growing and buying her some time. We have another appointment tomorrow to discuss the next course of treatment, but I can tell you right now, she’s going to continue the cannabis oil.  Oh, and to add to it, she had a cat scan about 3 months ago, and it showed the tumors were all the same size as when treatment started. So in the last 3 months, everything disappeared, and that’s when her chemo treatments were few and far between, but we really increased her cannabis intake.

    #96024
    Robbie Pigg
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    I was diagnosed 9-1-27 and an through 3 chemo treatments so far. I’m being given gencidoben & oxiplatin (sp) once every two weeks. I’ve also initiated taking cannabis oil during the past 30 days. Hoped to learn thru this discussion board if anyone else is using this oil & have had any real positive results regarding any healing benefits. Thanks

    #93782
    taylorjm
    Participant

    My mother in law is taking cannibis oil with chemo. She’s taking the simpson type that is high thc low cbd. She just started and we put it in capsules with coconut oil for her to take. She’s only taking it at night right now and gets a slight buzz during the night, but is fine by morning. Once the buzz feeling goes away, she may see about taking another capsule during the day. Right now she’s at a very very low dose. 1/50th of a gram per capsule. She needs to work up to 1g per day. She’s not taking it for pain or nausea though, she isn’t having any of that with her chemo, she’s taking it with hopes it will help knock out some of the cancer.

    #93781
    arapro
    Participant

    Hi,
    I use canabbis oil. With it I have not used painkillers ( Tylenol nor oxycodone) , nausea pills ( ondasetron ), anxiolytics ( rivotril ) or docusate ( to go to the bathroom ) – I feel great. If you can use it. My doctor also said it was ok.

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