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April 16, 2015 at 5:37 pm #87553mbachiniModerator
Dear Karen,
I am happy to welcome you to this very supportive site. I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your father and sister, and then your diagnosis. What a lot for anyone to handle. Please keep seeking other opinions, until you find the one that is as aggressive and as positive as you are. Never give up hope! Please keep us updated on your progress and know that we are here to help and support in any way we can. Take care, sending good thoughts and prayers your way.
MelindaApril 5, 2015 at 4:57 pm #87552lainySpectatorCatherine, your Mom proves that we were not born with expiration dates stamped on our feet. Have an awesome day!
April 5, 2015 at 4:32 pm #87551middlesister1ModeratorDear Karen,
My company should be arriving any minute, but wanted to give a quick welcome to out group. There is hope. Mom should be here soon, and it is 6 months later than she was told she be around for.
We are here for you-
Catherine
April 4, 2015 at 9:26 pm #87550lihuixuSpectatorDear Karen,
I am so sorry to learn about your disease and can only imagine what you are going through now. For my husband who also was diagnosed with intrahepatic Cholangiocarcinom, cytotoxic agents, such as Gem/Cis or others have not worked so well. However, he responded to targeted agents such as Avastin and Tarceva very well. I suggest you seek second opinion and ask if genetic testing can be performed. If genetic mutations are found, you may have more options using targeted agents.
Hang in there!
LeeApril 4, 2015 at 7:55 pm #87549lainySpectatorDear Karen, Welcome to our fabulous family and the best place to be for CC support! WOW! You have had quite a journey already! I am very sorry about your Dad and your Sister and now this. I feel this ONC is more afraid than you are! Your attitude is great and very much needed, attitude and a little humor. We have had very few CC patients go to CTCA as you really need a big Cancer Hospital with more experience to deal with CC. There is a good Hospital in Tampa called Moffitt Hospital We have had some good success there. 2nd and 3rd opinions are very good as different eyes see different things. Keep up the great attitude and you are not alone, you have a whole new family! Please keep us updated on your progress. Perhaps Moffitt can also suggest some other ONC in your area.
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April 4, 2015 at 7:26 pm #87548krmortonSpectatorDukeNukem wrote:You have to be aggressive and find an aggressive onc. You have to be your own advocate and never give up. Something I’ve found with doctors – when I start getting aggressive and push them, they sometimes don’t realize that I am fighting for my life.Hang in there – there is hope beyond the standard 2 year prognosis, but only if you take control.
Duke
Thanks Duke. I know I’m still dealing with the shock of all this, but aggressive is my plan. And my hope is to find an oncologist who can match or exceed my aggressive desires and support/lead me through the journey ahead. It is certainly a fight for my life and I want to enlist as many people to join the battle with me as I possibly can.
My career entails finding/fixing tough problems (albeit those problems are related to large corporate database applications) and I am used to taking charge and working through problems. I feel out of my element at the moment, but I plan to apply the same confidence and force of will to the fight against this disease as I do in my work endeavors. It may take a bit of time to gather and assimilate all this new info, but being aggressive, putting up a fight and grabbing the bull by the horns is the only way I know.
I saw the new Disney Cinderella movie with my 8 yo daughter the day before this all began and I keep repeating the phrase from the movie “courage and kindness” over and over in my head. Overarching everything, I want to hold fast to my courage and kindness along the way.
Thanks again!
April 4, 2015 at 6:29 pm #87547gavinModeratorHi Karen,
Welcome to the site. Sorry that you had to find us all here. Glad though that you’ve joined in with us here as you are so in the best place for support and help and can expect lots of each from everyone here! I can’t post much right now as am in a bit of arush at the moment but here are some links that I hope will be of use and interest to you –
Newly diagnosed:
http://cholangiocarcinoma.org/the-disea … diagnosed/
Free complimentary Book or e-mail download:
http://cholangiocarcinoma.org/news/foun … resources/
Biliary drainage – stent information card
http://cholangiocarcinoma.org/biliary-e … tion-card/
Register for a CURE
The International Cholangiocarcinoma Registry
http://cholangiocarcinoma.org/professio … -registry/And no, you are most certainly not dead yet! I say that to you in my broadest Scottish accent! Kicking this crap right between the eyes sounds like a great plan to me and know you don’t have to do the kicking alone, we will gladly join in with the kicking and stamping too!
We are here for you and we care.
My best wishes to you,
Gavin
April 4, 2015 at 6:29 pm #87546dukenukemMemberYour onc sounds a lot like mine – Eyeore at his best. I went to Mayo Rochester and saw Dr. Alberts to get an idea on where my next treatments might go. He was helpful but my local onc was unable/unwilling to follow up. I am now trying to get into a clinical trial in a different hospital system. Will know Monday.
I was first diagnosed in July 2013. Your onc’s estimates are based on averages in some study. There are other studies out there that are far more hopeful. I’ve got IHCC with mets to the liver, lungs, lymph nodes, and bones. You are right – you are getting the “by the book” answers.
Tears are normal, whether you are with others or alone. Don’t fight them – I’ve found them therapeutic.
You have to be aggressive and find an aggressive onc. You have to be your own advocate and never give up. Something I’ve found with doctors – when I start getting aggressive and push them, they sometimes don’t realize that I am fighting for my life.
Hang in there – there is hope beyond the standard 2 year prognosis, but only if you take control.
Duke
April 4, 2015 at 6:07 pm #11111krmortonSpectatorMy name is Karen and I am a 50 yo woman just diagnosed with IH CCA. I went to the ER with severe pain in my right side after experiencing what felt like heartburn for a couple of weeks. An abdominal CT revealed numerous lesions on my liver – the largest of which is 7 cm. The pain was bad enough they hospitalized me to find a proper method to manage the pain and while admitted, I had a liver biopsy and additional bloodwork and other tests. The biopsy confirmed adenocarcinoma. My CA 19-9 was 19600 on first test and 4 days later had increased further to over 28000. My pain was finally controlled and I’m taking 20 mg of Oxycontin twice a day along with 3 doses of Gabapentin. I am functioning mostly normally now but odd things like hiccups or laying flat or leaning too far in any one direction tend to send stabbing pains into my side (they tell me that’s due to the masses in the liver).
My doctor stated that I had CCA but I have yet to read anything in the clinical notes (I’m at Mayo Jacksonville and have access to all my records/scans via the patient online portal) about staging etc. He mentioned getting me to participate in a clinical trial when I first saw him while in the hospital and gave me a packet of forms, but 3 days later when I got out of the hospital and went to see him for my first outpatient meeting/followup, he informed me the last spot had been filled. I was told that it was an intrahepatic type and further told that I had no options for surgery, radiation, or basically anything other than Gem/Cis chemo. He further stated that “when” that stopped working, there were “a couple” of different options to try to see “if” they might work and basically, if/when I found something that would work, the definition of working was simply a regimen that stabilized disease progression. “If” I was lucky, I’d find luck with each chemo that was tried until – one-by-one – each thing stopped working until all options were exhausted. The broad time frame he gave me was “approximately 1 year” and maybe 2 if I was lucky. I was told that the liver mets were the big problem and they would prohibit any course of treatment other than the standard protocol of Gem/Cis.
So many of you have provided info on staging, specific physical location of your source tumor location, etc. I don’t have any of that and it seems like I’m just being given a “standard” song and dance. I’ve heard very favorable things about Mayo (mostly in Rochester though) and I know my Jacksonville doctor has sent tissue samples to Rochester for molecular profiling/genotyping and for FISH break apart probe for FGFR2 fusion protein (although I don’t know exact what this is…I have a basic idea but not the breadth of details).
I’m feeling like since the spot in the trial (which my doc is participating in) closed, that I’m being swept into the “nothing special” bucket and offered nothing more than, as I mentioned above, the standard spiel. I’ve read a lot (primarily from this site) and still fill ill-informed although I understand things in a general way. My diagnosis feels so very ominous and grave and it’s as if a loaded and cocked gun is being held to my head by a 2 year old.
I was told that I need to start Gem/Cis next week (i.e. ASAP) but I have decided to wait at least one more week and go get a 2nd opinion from CTCA in Atlanta. I have read much about their holistic, interdisciplinary approach and, since it’s relatively close to me, thought I’d try there for another opinion. I realize they may confirm what I’ve already been told, but even if they do, I need to hear it again and feel as if I’m more than just another hamster on the wheel.
It’s as if I am floating about 3 feet outside my body watching everything happen. I’ve had a few tears, but have found that I mostly have been consoling my partner, my mother and other family members more than truly feeling what I feel. I feel numb mostly so it’s just easier to focus on everyone else other than me it seems.
My diagnosis comes 8 days after my father passed away from Parkinson’s Disease and 4 months after my younger sister (age 43) died after a 4 year battle with neuroendocrine carcinoma that had metastasized to her liver (among other sites). My diagnosis is just too much on top of what I and my family have already been through and I’m so tired of death that I can’t express it adequately enough.
I’ve been saying “I ain’t dead yet!” (in my best east TN hillbilly voice….I’m from east Tennessee originally) and I plan to do everything I can to kick this crap right between the eyes. But I know I’m going to need help. That’s why I’m glad to have found this group and look forward to getting to know you and to ultimately be able to give and help others who have found or will find themselves here.
Any info, stories, encouragement, etc are kindly appreciated and I will give my thanks in advance for your support and kind welcome to the group.
Kind regards,
Karen -
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