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  • #73891
    betzeegirl
    Spectator

    Hi sadwife… I think it’s great that the hemp oil is working so well. My husband was also dx at age 57 and though he was able to have surgery, the surgical outcome wasn’t too good. (surgeon couldn’t get all the cancer.) He did have chemo and radiation and is now feeling very good. He’s definitely changed his diet and tries to exercise (with a bit of nagging from me!) since one of our oncs said “exercise is as important as chemo.”

    I know the prognosis still remains poor, though, and just pray that I would enjoy each day that I have my husband, one day at a time, because no one knows when it’s their time to go….with cancer you can actually sort of get ready for it. You and your husband are in my prayers.

    Oh one more thing–the way I handled the diagnosis was to figure out the top specialists and get second and third opinions about his situation. I’d try getting a second opinion from Sloan Kettering, maybe.

    #73890
    malinger2
    Spectator

    I thought I would share with anyone that is interested that my husband tried the Canabis based, Marinol last night and it made all the difference for him in terms of increasing appetite. Since his liver resection on May 2, John has had little appetite and his taste buds were greatly affected, everything tasted salty. Maybe it was the placebo effect, but he took a pill last night before dinner, was feeling a bit loopy, or slightly high, but ate a great dinner, whistled on the way home, and was so much like his old self that, if for no other reason, the Marinol made him feel encouraged and like he could make it through the chemo that starts next Wednesday. We also got other drugs for nausea, but for now, the only thing we are worried about it building him up so that he will be stronger next week. One great dinner last night, one great breakfast today, a much better disposition.
    I wanted to let people know in case they are worried about a serious lack of appetite or interested in Marinol.
    Melinda

    #73889
    marions
    Moderator

    sadwife….the benefits of cannabis have been well documented, but continues to be a heated issue of discussion not only in the medical community but the government as well. It appears that Norbert is benefitting in that he is able to sleep well. For that I am absolutely thrilled. Like you, I believe that we should not ignore some of the “natural” or homeopathies available to patients. Unlike Germany (for example) where physicians focus on integrated medicine in combination with pharmaceuticals, US physicians are trained in pharmaceuticals only. This gave rise to a growing group of Integrated Medicine professionals i.e. Dr. Weil. Having said that, it is unlikely for cancer to be cured with a holistic approach, but it can aid in the wellbeing of the patient treated with conventional drugs.

    This is an exert taken from Dr. Weil’s website:
    http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART02054/Andrew-Weil-Integrative-Medicine.html
    “Integrative medicine is healing-oriented medicine that takes account of the whole person (body, mind, and spirit), including all aspects of lifestyle. It emphasizes the therapeutic relationship and makes use of all appropriate therapies, both conventional and alternative.

    The principles of integrative medicine:
    •A partnership between patient and practitioner in the healing process
    •Appropriate use of conventional and alternative methods to facilitate the body’s innate healing response
    •Consideration of all factors that influence health, wellness and disease, including mind, spirit and community as well as body
    •A philosophy that neither rejects conventional medicine nor accepts alternative therapies uncritically
    •Recognition that good medicine should be based in good science, be inquiry driven, and be open to new paradigms
    •Use of natural, effective, less-invasive interventions whenever possible
    •Use of the broader concepts of promotion of health and the prevention of illness as well as the treatment of disease
    •Training of practitioners to be models of health and healing, committed to the process of self-exploration and self-development.”

    We must remember that companies producing holistic or natural drugs do not differ from that of the pharma industry in that profitable products are the driving force of innovation and supply. The later is heavily regulated whereas providers of natural and or homeopathic products do not undergo the stringent requirements set forth by the FDA.

    It is for that reason that we need to practice great caution when placing our trust in products pretending to be curative in nature. It is misleading and potentially can cause harm to the patient. To state that cannabis oil can cure a disease simply is a criminal act and proves that the supplier is praying on the desperation of people struggling with a difficult diagnoses.

    MEGACE (megestrol acetate) a synthetic form of cannabis with added compounds is prescribed by practitioners for the same effect that cannabis can provide. However; driven by the pharmaceutical lobby, it gained FDA approval for legal drug status and prescribed by medical professionals. The question then is why do we have to feed the industry for a “drug” that can be taken in its purest form? I don’t believe that we have to do this, but we also have to be careful with obtaining cannabis, as it can be laced with other ingredients and potentially be harmful.
    It is my personal opinion that marijuana provides an essential aid in the treatment for nausea, pain, and appetite increase and should be considered as such only. Clearly it is not proven to be curative and any statement eluding to the “healing” properties of cannabis is exploiting desperate patients and their loved ones.
    Hugs,
    Marion

    #73888
    sadwife
    Member

    I’m so disappointed that no one taking hemp/cannabis oil has posted here to give actual stories. I understand that usually “if its too good to be true, it usually is”. I get it…. And I also understand the politics behind it all. But in my husband’s case, we were given a diagnosis on March 21, 2014, and no dr would give my husband the answers he was looking for, other than there was no cure, it was just a matter of time……but that was the magic question that no one could answer. So when my sons came with the only glimmer of hope…..at least more hope than any Dr could offer us (especially the Mayo Clinic……a place that up until I took my husband there I held in high regard). So, what’s wrong with grasping at the only glimmer of hope there is.!!! Norbert at least can sleep peacefully, through the night, which he hasn’t been able to in the past 9 months….and where he has been offered other pharmaceutical drugs… I don’t understand why people accept the ” side affects” more readily when they come from pharmaceutical Companies. I also get the politics behind it all, but that still doesn’t stop me from wondering if its the hemp or those drugs that the drug companies and insurance companies are raking in tons of money that are the answers. Since the diagnosis, I’ve become very bitter toward the health care industry and God. I understand that its my problem and I’m the one that needs to deal with that….and I will…in time. But for now, I’m trying to make the best of the hand that’s been dealt to us.

    #73887
    lainy
    Spectator

    Oh, Renee, what a sad story about your chemo buddy. I agree with you about everything you said. I wish some of these snake oil people could be incarcerated, the way they prey on sick individuals.
    We had such good news today with our Randi and I hope it gives a lot of our Members a lot of HOPE!

    #73886
    rvb
    Member

    Sadly, one of my ‘chemo buddies’ gave up on the chemo because it was so debilitating. She is 47, has four children – all have Asperger’s syndrome to some degree. She said she did not want her children’s lasting memory of Mom to be of her lying in bed, or being on or over the toilet. Can’t say I blamed her, the FOLFIRI really beat her up. The next line of treatment was said to be even worse with stronger side effects.

    She saw a TV show about cannabis oil and how it kept an ALS patient alive and relatively well, and that it was ‘proven’ to cure cancer. That was all she needed. She researched and found a Canadian company that would sell her a one month supply of cannabis oil for…..$1200 a month! And she bought it. I did a quick internet search on the company she is using and all I read were negative comments. I told her and sent her the links, but she ignored them. I guess she is grasping for anything at this point. I haven’t heard from her in a while, and of course I wish her well and that this is her miracle cure. But to me, it sounds like someone taking advantage of a desperate person.

    Do I believe that Big Pharma is taking advantage of us as well? Probably. Do I believe that some (not all!) physicians do not have the patients best interest in heart? Absolutely, I’ve been in medicine for far too long to believe otherwise. But I have faith in the science and research behind the treatments available, and sometimes faith is the best thing we have.

    #73885
    gavin
    Moderator

    A quick google shows that name Simpson all over the web with regards to hemp oil and cancer and to me, that sets alarm bells ringing. Found this from 2009 –

    http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2009/08/19/cannabinoids-for-treating-cancer/

    http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v101/n6/abs/6605248a.html

    #73884
    thebompie4
    Member

    I am ALWAYS skeptical of things like this…

    IF it was a “cure” for cancer–wouldn’t people be using it all the time
    and being cured?

    Not sure it would hurt to add to the “fight”–but the skeptic in me
    always thinks IF there was a “cure all” for this darn disease–people
    would be doing the “cure” and there would be no more cancer. :(

    #73883
    marions
    Moderator

    Patty…..some amazing claims have been made in re: to cancer cures. There will always be those individuals exploiting those that are in dire need of treatment.
    Hugs,
    Marion

    #8645
    pattimelt
    Spectator

    Has anyone heard of hemp oil as an alternative to fight cancer. A man named Simpson supposedly claims his hemp oil can cure cancer!!

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