Hospice to the End?
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September 13, 2010 at 3:51 pm #41463lainySpectator
Hi Bz, I just looked that up and it is pretty close for me. Looks nice. Then the Nurse happened to call and I informed her of my decision and she said that is fine and she will let me know when it’s time. Whew, sigh of relief. Thanks
September 13, 2010 at 3:21 pm #41462BazelSpectatorLainy,
Because of my mom’s dementia, my dad wanted to go to a hospice facility. He knew if he went home, mom wouldn’t understand what was happening and in the end it would be difficult for him to be at peace quite frankly. My dad was at Dobson House (Hospice of the Valley on Dobson just north of Ray) and I was very please with his care. They were able to respond very quickly to his changing needs.
Follow your instincts and your heart.
Bz
September 13, 2010 at 2:49 pm #41461lainySpectatorHi, Gina Marie. Teddy is up and about yet. He will be OK with the decision as are all the kids. He just didn’t want to be in a “hospital” like facility for long. For the end he will be fine with it. I just feel they will control the pain better at their facility and it’s only about 15 minutes from us. I just don’t want him in pain that can’t be controlled. I know you can’t put a time on anything but best guesses are end of September, beginning of October. He is down to 154Lbs now, pain controlled, eating small but attitude is upbeat and he is still the funny little Sicilian! Yesterday he broke me up. He came in the kitchen and said, “Let’s dance!” Then he started to sing “our song” to me! I really lost it. He says to me, don’t cry I said then don’t sing!
September 13, 2010 at 12:09 pm #41460lainySpectatorThanks for the reinforcement Marion and Gavin.
September 13, 2010 at 10:00 am #41459gavinModeratorHi Lainy,
A tough choice indeed and I guess a decision that is the right one for one family will not be right for another, each to their own I think. I know with my dad that he wanted to stay home as long as he could, but then he was admitted to the hospice because of his vomitting. Once there, however, he had the chance to come home for a few days but decided against it as he said he felt safe and secure in the hospice, and the care he got was amazing so that also put him at ease with being there right through.
I know what Teddy means when he says he doesn’t want to be in the hospital for a month or so. My dad was the same as he had enough of hospitals and all that and after all, there is nothing like home. I think that my dad was also taking into account my mums health and what the effect on that would be having him there at the end and he knew that even with the nursing help we would have had that all of his care would have come down to me.
As I said earlier Lainy, this is a tough choice but I know that you will both make the decision that is right for you both. Your gut instinct has worked well throughout all of this and I know it will do so again. I do hope that you can both enjoy these 3 days alone together before the next round of visitors arrive. As always, I am thinking of you both.
Hugs to you and Teddy,
Gavin
September 13, 2010 at 3:59 am #41458marionsModeratorLainy……In my area, Hospice will refer nurses to be with you around the clock, if you chose to stay at home with Teddy. The cost for the attendant might run between $15.00 and $25.00 per hour. Other agencies also hire out nurses for the end-of life purpose. When my husband passed only my children and I were by his side. However, my oldest son is an epidemiologist and his training included end of life care. Lainy, I agree with you in that you should not take this on alone. My husband had asked to be in his home until the end and I honored his wishes. Teddy and you will make the decision best for you, I am sure of that.
Enjoy your precious three days together.
Hugs
MarionSeptember 13, 2010 at 3:24 am #41457lainySpectatorThank you all for your responses. Originally T wanted to be home so I would not have to chase daily to be with him. I am thinking more and more that when the Nurse feels we have a week or so to let him go to their facility. I understand it is very nice. He just didn’t want to be in a hospital for a month. I know I did things for him after his Whipple I never thought I could do but as strong as I have been, I don’t think I could handle being alone with him at the end. Thank you for your input I just knew I would get some quality answers here.
So, last of the 3 weeks of out of town company is over as of tonight. I have notified friends who have been waiting patiently to just give us 3 days alone and then they can start coming over. Its good to be Queen! Love you all!September 13, 2010 at 12:58 am #41456elainewSpectatorHi Lainy,
Gosh, this is a tough one to try to address…what’s good for one family may not be in the best interests of another. I would hate to influence you in any particular direction, but I’ll relate our experience and you can take it for what it’s worth.
While in the hospital being treated for fluid in the lungs (totally unaware at first that it was cancerous),our oncologist informed us Gary had weeks to live. He had been fighting cc for 2 years and we were still hopeful there was something out there for him. So…the decision had to be made – did he want to go home from the hospital with Hospice care or go directly into a Hospice unit. Since we were in a winter rental condo(FL) far removed from our permanent home, the decision was relatively easy to make. Gary polled the room (me, Gary’s brother and his wife, and himself) urging us all to be very honest. We all agreed a Hospice unit would be best. I was afraid of what was going to happen and how I would handle it at home alone…and Gary, as his usual wonderful self, wanted whatever was best for me. The option of driving or flying to SC was off the table by then because of Gary’s weakened condition.
So he was transferred to a local Hospice center that very night. BEST decision we could have made!! It was wonderful from the very first second we arrived. They made Gary feel like he was the king of the world..they were totally, 100% there to meet his needs. I can’t even explain the courtesy, respect, tenderness and excellent medical care that was shown to my husband. The staff went out of their way to speak to each family member as they all started to converge on the unit..reassuring, answering questions, seeing to our comfort, extending emotional support. They were able to almost precisely predict how and when the end would come and encouraged family members to travel sooner than later. They ministered to Gary with such dignity that we were all in awe of the process of his body shutting down (I know that sounds odd and gruesome, but that just goes to show you how amazing they were!). Gary passed away 5 days after entering Hospice. The entire experience was absolutely awful and awesome at the same time. We had those days to entirely devote to Gary (and to each other) and had no worries about anything medical…which was a huge relief. We were with Gary every minute, without distractions, and were left with no regrets of whether we had done the right thing.
Lainy and Teddy, I’m not trying to persuade you to do things the way we chose…certainly you being in your own home with family close by makes a huge difference in what you will decide to do. Gary was not going to pass away in his own home no matter what. The only issue I can really address is the medical presence to the end. That was a wonderful blessing that worked for us.
My thoughts and prayers are truly with you everyday. You two have been our heroes from the day we first found cc.org. Take care, laugh and pray together. Elaine
September 13, 2010 at 12:48 am #41455s-st-germainMemberLainy,
My mom passed away about 6 years ago under home hospice care and her nuse deemed her imminent 5 different times. Each time hospice sent caretakers out around the clock until she was out of danger, then they would go back to weekly visits. Nancy, has a diifferent hospice, San Diego Hospice which she just started. They have an offsite hospice that Nancy was sent to for a week where they adjusted her pain meds and anti nausea medicine which run continuous 24 hours for up to 4 days. The goal is to keep her at home, but they said if things become too difficult, they could take her back to their hospice facility which is very nice and comfortable. If you haven’t checked out their hospice facility, you should. Not all Hospices are equal. We got recommedations from our home health nurse and our case manager.Good Luck
Steve & Nancy St.Germain
(49) (49)September 12, 2010 at 11:31 pm #41454kathybMemberMy dad passed away last week. Hospice was involved. They came for a visit every day, but were not there 24 hrs a day. It was the same for my mother-in-law some years back. I do believe Hospice communities operate differently so it would be best to ask your faciltiy this direct question.
Kathy
September 12, 2010 at 11:16 pm #3981lainySpectatorToday, I was told by a member of the family that I should move Teddy to a Hospice Facility when we get near the end or I will be the one giving meds and taking care of him. I thought at that point they come round the clock. Is this true? Anyone know from experience how far they go. I know, I know I should listen to anyone else but…..I was under the impression they handle all to the end.
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