Irinotecan / Camptosar Clinical Trial
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September 12, 2010 at 1:02 am #40717linda-zSpectator
Thank you all for your suggestions. I will re-post under a new subject line.
Also, I just wanted to comment that I have never been told or no doctor has ever mentioned a cancer and/or tumor marker or CA-19 values. Is that a negative thing? Should I be watching these numbers?
Thanks all,
Linda
September 11, 2010 at 6:55 am #40716rowena32MemberHi, All,
I have been a little depressed after I got the results from the blood tests on Wednesday. The CA-19 and CEA test both went up. The CA-19 is up to 21,374, and that is after two chemo treatments. I don’t know how high it can go and what is going to stop it!!!
Marion, a friend of mine told me that they were talking about ALN-VSP on the Mike Huckabee show on FOX on August 31. I think it is more for the tumors than for the bile duct cancer. That will be one of the questions, I will have for my doctor nest week when I see him.
Another question will be about the sore spots I am getting on my veins. I have a sore lump on each arm. I, also, have an appointment next week to see a surgeon about getting a port. My veins cannot take much more.
Let’s all enjoy the week-end.
Best wishes,
TheresaSeptember 8, 2010 at 8:16 pm #40715kentuckyjackMemberHello Linda Z:
Alternative treatments are worth considering in your area. One of the other members informed me of a book by Dr. Keith Block, “Life Over Cancer”. Dr. Block runs the Block Center for Integrative Cancer Treatment in Evanston, IL. Even if his costs are prohibitive, his book is worth buying, and calling to ask for free advice is something I would try. I mean you live in the Chicago area, right? Maybe at least a free consult could be arranged.
God help us all to keep up the fight!
-Tom
September 8, 2010 at 5:11 am #40714marionsModeratorGood memory, Kris. Linda and I had met personally during my attendance at ASCO (American Society of Clinical Oncology) Chicago, this year. We also were able to meet up with Barbara, her mom Stella, and Patty.
Linda, I have e-mailed you.
Best wishes,
MarionSeptember 7, 2010 at 8:59 pm #40713katjaMemberKris makes a good point, Linda,
You might have more luck searching for a liver specialist (especially through Google) who might either also specialise in CC or might recommend someone?
Good luck, you deserve some. Hope someone turns up very soon.
KateSeptember 7, 2010 at 8:35 pm #40712devoncatSpectatorLinda,
This may be a long shot….but wasnt there a cholangiocarcinoma conference there recently? IF there was someone who specialised in that, they most likely would have gone. One of our members went as a representative, but for the life of me I cant remember who. Perhaps you could look through the old posts or ask Marion if she remembers who went and contact them for an attendence list. That is the only other thing I can think of.Oh…and you might want to see which hospitals have a hepto-billary ward. They might not list cc specifically, but I am sure they would have experience with it.
Kris
September 7, 2010 at 7:58 pm #40711linda-zSpectatorThanks Kristin for putting things into perspective here. I let my emotions carry me away a little too much. My doctor didn’t really say come back to me when you start to die, but that is just how I felt. I know he meant that when the tumors start to give me problems, he would address possible radiation then, but I don’t see why he didn’t address the possibility before they caused problems.
I am definitely looking for another doctor, but don’t want to waste time going to a doctor that hasn’t worked with CC before. You would THINK that being in the Chicago area, it would be easier to locate someone specialized in this. When I google cholangiocarginoma specialist, or variations of that (bile duct), I don’t get much….one particular that I DO get is a doctor that I saw in Feb. at the Univ. of Chicago with my current onc.
I just found Cancer Treatment Centers of America, but it is outside the network of my HMO. That darned HMO is just getting in my way here. Just have to keep looking.
Thanks all,
Linda
September 7, 2010 at 7:50 am #40710marionsModeratorTheresa….Tom (747Jetmech) had posted some information re: ALN-VSP. You can find the information by entering ALN-VSP in the google search (top, right hand side of page.) How did you find out about it?
Best wishes,
MarionSeptember 7, 2010 at 6:56 am #40709rowena32MemberHi, Linda,
Just thought I would check the Board before I went to bed to see what was new. So sorry, to hear that you are going to be in the market looking for a new doctor. But, you sure don’t need the one that you have now. It takes so much time to find a new one, sending records, waiting for phone calls, etc., but in the end, it will be worth it. Maybe, you could look up, Kathy B. and see who she goes to at Mayo and contact him. Or, look up Mayo at the top of this page and do a search.Has anyone heard of ALN-VSP???????
Kristin, will you be taking supplements along with your chemo? When I started taking chemo, again, I was told not to take antioxidents for it would interfere with the chemo. Last time, I was told it was okay to drink a “green drink” with the antioxidents. So, I would like to know what you are doing. I don’t think most doctors know enough about the different supplements.
What chemo will you be having this time?Theresa
September 4, 2010 at 1:12 pm #40708kristinSpectatorLinda,
That doctor sounds like an insensitive clod!! And you’re right, you absolutely need a new one. I had really good luck finding my present oncologist by asking other people in medical fields who they would recommend (including my primary care doc, two nurse friends of mine, etc.)
But I think. there is one little grain of truth to what he said, about waiting until the tumors actually give you problems. I really don’t think he meant “come back when you start to die” because there are other milder problems the tumors can cause that give you PLENTY of trouble. This has been my situation. For the last six months, my 2 tumors (just outside my liver) have been wrecking my appetite, making me lose a ton of weight, giving me nausea, and draining all my energy, and I finally decided to start palliative chemo next week. And I’m not nearly, nearly “starting to die”!
So I think that’s what he meant by that. Which does NOT excuse his atrocious “bedside manner”!! And he’s obviously the wrong doc for you, in terms of philosophy and a zillion other things. I’m SURE that in a metropolitan area as big as Chicago you can find someone who will be perfect for you.
Wishing you all the best!
Kristin
September 3, 2010 at 10:56 pm #40707linda-zSpectatorNot so good news! Wish it was better to report, but I can’t say that.
My hair started falling out the day after my second treatment. It has been 4 weeks now and I would say it might just about be time to start wearing a scarf or wig. I took this as a sign that the chemo. trial was working because the other 4 chemo meds I took did not produce this effect, even though I was told most would.
I had CT scans after 2 treatments of the clinical trial dose to see if the trial was working and if so, to continue with 2 more treatments. The CT scans actually showed that the 3 tumors in my liver had grown each by about 1-2 cm (in 2 months), and I now have “other numerous tumors” too small to measure. The 2 tumors in my lungs have also grown, and a 3rd has appeared.
I found out again that the chemo. didn’t work, by reading the radiologist’s report on the CT scan. I needed a copy to take to the Univ. of Chicago oncologist for his evaluation (CT’s were done locally at my medical group). My medical group is “really accommodating” when you request copies of medical tests, but they must not think about the patients looking at the results.
My U of C Onc. walked into the office and said in a cheery voice, “how are you doing today?”. He was by himself this time, without the usually students and fellow doctor entorage that usually follows him. I told him not too good, and he countered with “what are we doing for you today?” He didn’t even know why I was there. I asked if he knew the results of the CT’s to which he said no, do you? I told him it didn’t work, gave him a copy of the report and a disk with the CT’s on it and he asked “were these ordered?” He didn’t even remember that he asked me to have them done. He took the disk and report I gave him to look at somewhere else, even though there was a computer in the room, returning 45 mins. later and said “you’re right, it didn’t work”.
He said there was another clinical trial that I could be a part of where a chemo. drug (that was only experimental so far and hadn’t been used outside the clinical trial) was tested to see how food affected it’s effectiveness. I asked about radiation therapy, more surgery, and many other alternatives, but he said “we don’t do it that way” to every question I asked. He did say to come back or give him a call when the tumors started causing problems, and they would see what could be done to make it easier. More or less saying, come back when you start to die.
Needless to say, I’m looking into another doctor, hospital, someone who will look at this cancer in an aggressive way. I have no symptoms of illness, and was told the tumors in the liver are not in an area that will cause problems yet (not near any major veins or bile ducts). They are in the right side of the liver, and my previous surgery was on the left.
I haven’t been able to search for Mayo Clinic yet and how to get “into” there but plan to soon, and I also need to check with my medical group again to try to get a referral either to Mayo or somewhere else. They told me they didn’t make referrals outside of my area, especially not out of state, but I was going to press them for it again. I have an HMO and need referrals everywhere I go. I could have changed to a PPO this past June, but didn’t think I would need to. Now I’m kicking myself for it. I also am going to talk to my HR dept. to see if they will allow an exception for changing ins. Probably not, but it can’t hurt to ask.
I have a plan of attack, I just am not organized with it yet. Since the long weekend is here, I will have more time to work on it. IF my husband takes care of our son for a period of time while I get things together.
Linda
August 16, 2010 at 8:39 pm #40706linda-zSpectatorHi Theresa,
Thanks. I didn’t see your e-mail until today (didn’t ck) so thanks for telling me. I just sent you a reply.
Linda
August 13, 2010 at 9:56 pm #40705rowena32MemberLinda, so sorry to hear that you are under so much stress. It is too bad that you can not take a leave of absence from work, but it is great that your employer is so understanding.
I sent you an e-mail last week. Did you get it?
TheresaAugust 12, 2010 at 12:14 am #40704rick-kampMemberLinda,
Hang in there. I can’t imagine it isn’t easy dealing with all of this and then not feeling like you get the support you need at home. The encouraging things though is that maybe this clinical trial is exactly what you need to kick some cancer butt!
I wish you the best of luck in getting through your difficult day and all of the difficult days that may come in the future. Just a thought – but have you considered applying for disability through social security? It is almost a sure thing with the diagnosis of cholangiocarcinoma. The only drawback is that you have a 6 month waiting period and may not work during it. When I was battling heavy chemo I stopped working and applied for disability, was approved, and now get some financial assistance. I have since returned to work on a limited basis which allows me a little bit of supplemental income while I can keep my disability income as long as I don’t earn over a substantial amount. Since I really don’t work more than about 8-10 hours a week at this point it is very helpful to have the supplemental income. It is also nice because it allows me to spend more quality time with my family because I’m not so run down from work all the time. Just a thought for you.
Rick
August 11, 2010 at 5:39 pm #40703lainySpectatorLinda, Linda, Linda….you are trying to hard to be Super Woman! I know you well, I am your twin! People never think we are sick or down or tired because we are not suppsoed to be, that is the way we have made it. We multi-task, we are there for everyone no matter what the cause, we work out of the home and in the home. But know what? No one will put any of that on my grave marker. We were born with this inate energy that won’t give up or let us stop. And who knows maybe that is why we have the strength to handle it ALL! Have you ever had a sit down (like Teddy would say) to discuss quietly with your husband how you feel? Once I wrote a letter (to my ex) explaining how I felt about lots of things and gave it to him. While it didn’t change anything, he did read it and I felt better. So, my dear twin, unless you have the power to make it change…it won’t. But be sure we are all here for you all the way. And anyway I think we are all easier to please! Love & hugs coming your way.
P.S. By the way I would probably crawl if I had to, to take my child to his first day of K. Again just like you! -
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