Leaking PTC Biliary Drainage Tubes

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  • #91325
    gavin
    Moderator

    Hi there,

    I’m not sure about this myself but I know others have had experiences with drains etc and hopefully someone will be along soon to offer some tips. In the meantime, if you want you could do a search here on the site as I know there are posts on this topic as it has come up before. The search forum function at the top of the page will throw up these discussions for you.

    My best to you,

    Gavin

    #91324
    lmcherry
    Spectator

    I am on my 7th set of tubes, the last 3 with gradually increasing sizes, and the leakage just seems to get worse and worse. I went to an ostomy clinic last week and they put on a child-sized ostomy bag to collect the leakage. It worked well for an afternoon before it, too, started to leak. The problem appears to be the small hole they needed to put in the ostomy bag for the drainage tube to pass through on its way to the collection bag on my leg. They attempted to seal that up with waterproof tape, but it started oozing within a couple of hours followed by catastrophic leakage. I am wondering about something else to seal the edges of the ostomy bag to the tube, like maybe a silicone sealant? Has anyone else had any experience with this?

    #91327
    karend
    Spectator

    Gator Jake,

    I looked through your old postings and is it MUSC where you are being treated? This facility appears to have a “skin team” in place. A skin team is generally composed of wound ostomy continence certified registered nurses who are highly skilled in all issues revolving around skin care/wounds/drains. Perhaps your interventional radiology team could arrange for you to be seen by this group when you are there for an appointment? It would be worth asking.

    -Karen

    #91326
    karend
    Spectator

    All,

    I have discovered that the links within the previous post on drainage care are old and no longer work. They are now updated with the new links, minus the University of Washington as it is no longer available, and I have added the University of Utah.

    In addition, interventional radiology should be aware of excessive leakage from the drain insertion site as they will need to assure that the tubing is patent. If all is well and there is continued leakage, I have often times had wound ostomy nurses secure a bag around the insertion site to prevent bile from continually irritating the surrounding skin. You want to keep the skin clean and dry or it will become quite sore after time.

    Information gathered on biliary drains from major centers of care in the United States, search terms: Biliary drain leakage, biliary drains, biliary drains not attached to drain bag, leakage at insertion site from biliary drains

    Stanford
    https://stanfordhealthcare.org/content/ … cation.pdf

    Memorial Sloan Kettering (MSKCC)
    https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/patie … e-catheter

    University of Utah
    http://healthcare.utah.edu/radiology/pr … n-care.php

    The Ohio State University Medical Center
    https://patienteducation.osumc.edu/Docu … yDrain.pdf

    University of San Francisco (UCSF)
    http://campuslifeservices.ucsf.edu/dmx/ … UR0320.pdf

    Beth Israel/Harvard
    http://www.bidmc.org/~/media/Files/Cent … 20tube.pdf

    Common finding: If leakage, attach to drain bag. These facilities say to flush daily with saline and to call if excessive leakage.

    -Karen, BSN, RN, CHPN

    #91329
    marions
    Moderator

    Dave…..Karen D, oncology nurse, had posted the below/ I hope it is of help to you.

    Information gathered on biliary drains from major centers of care in the United States, search terms: Biliary drain leakage, biliary drains, biliary drains not attached to drain bag, leakage at insertion site from biliary drains

    Stanford
    https://stanfordhealthcare.org/content/ … cation.pdf

    Memorial Sloan Kettering (MSKCC)
    https://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/patie … e-catheter

    University of Washington
    http://www.uwmedicine.org/health-librar … drain.aspx

    The Ohio State University Medical Center
    https://patienteducation.osumc.edu/Docu … yDrain.pdf

    University of San Francisco (UCSF)
    http://campuslifeservices.ucsf.edu/dmx/ … UR0320.pdf

    Beth Israel/Harvard
    http://www.bidmc.org/Centers-and-Depart … 0tube.ashx

    Common finding: If leakage, attach to drain bag. These facilities say to flush daily with saline and to call if excessive leakage.

    -Karen, RN, CHPN

    Hugs
    Marion

    #91328
    lainy
    Spectator

    Hi Dave! Sorry to hear about the “tube” problems. My husband had those issues and he also got the stitches and the drainage bag. The bag did work for him and I did the emptying. He also pinned the top of the bag to the bottom of his shirt which made it more comfortable. He even putted golf balls with the bag in tact. Hopefully, someone can come up with a good idea for you!

    #12078
    gatorjake
    Member

    Hello All,

    I am struggling with an issue surrounding the PTC Biliary tubes that I have hanging out my side. I am getting enough leakage out of the opening where the tube goes into the skin that it requires 2 dressing changes per day. This is my third set of tubes and I feel that the leaking is probably worse now than it has ever been. I went back to the I/R team and they placed a larger tube in the opening thinking that this would resolve the issue but it really hasn’t done much to help. I even asked that sutures be places at the opening and they obliged but this hasn’t worked out very well either. I was asked to place a drainage bag on the end of the tube but this doesn’t seem to have a positive effect.

    Has anyone had issues similar to this and how have you successfully dealt with them?

    Thanks in advance,

    Dave

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