Liver Resection/ post liver resection
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August 5, 2013 at 10:35 pm #74312claremSpectator
Marion,
I will forever be indebted to her surgeon. Her decline surprised even him and I am in no doubt she would have obstructed relatively quickly and his foresight spared her from unnecessary discofort and surgery.
He is an amazing man.
August 5, 2013 at 12:05 am #74311mparsonsSpectatorHeather,
I think you should be happy about that 90% estimate! I know these things are relative, but I’d take your surgeon’s statement as something like, “I’m very confident about this, but one can never say with 100% certainty.” I had multiple good-sized lesions in both lobes and multiple lymph nodes. My surgeon said 65% chance of complete success. It took two surgeries, and the first was long and “dicey” as he put it. So I tend to think his aggressiveness, persistence, and skill made up that other 35%. (-:
Mark
August 4, 2013 at 11:37 pm #74310marionsModeratorClare….thanks for mentioning: “The surgeon did a stomach bypass though before he finished as he foresaw the potential for an obstruction and thankfully proactively dealt with that for her.”
I applaud the surgeon for doing just that.
Hugs,
MarionAugust 4, 2013 at 11:18 pm #74309claremSpectatorHi Heather,
My sister who was 41 had her resection aborted. When she went for surgery, her tumour was more extensive than the scans and imaging had shown and her surgeon who thought pre surgery that it had been there for about a year said that once he saw her liver, the tumour had been growing for years. Also, Prior to her surgery, she had portal vein embolisation which was basically where the blood supply to the right side of her liver was shut off to make the left side grow. This was done as her tumour through the right and mid section of her liver only left her with 14% of her liver unaffected and what was to be left behind had to grow to 25% to avoid liver failure. The gamble of doing the embolisation procedure was that the tumour might grow rapidly during the 4 weeks it took tp grow her liver. Unfortunately it did grow and along the entire length of her liver and left the surgeon with no possible way of removing tumour without leaving exposed tumour behind.
The surgeon did a stomach bypass though before he finished as he foresaw the potential for an obstruction and thankfully proactively dealt with that for her.
Looking back, the odds were against her from the start, not like the plan the surgeon has for Gordon. There are positive stories here and I know my sister would do the same surgery again if there was any glimmer of hope. Whilst being suitable for surgery is exactly where you want to be with this disease, I understand your anxiety.
Xx
August 4, 2013 at 5:55 pm #74308heatherMemberThank you, yes Lainy I am getting very anxious as is Gordon. im dreaming about it. The other thing I forgot to mention is Dr. Vauthey said there is a 90% chance that the surgery will be done, so I guess I should be happy about that, right?
And Mark your right…Gordon never got a prognosis before but knew surgery was his best chance.
I guess I need to let go let God….I feel like we are on pause in a movie right now.
Good luck to you Mark we pray this nasty cancer stays away..
Heather
August 4, 2013 at 5:35 pm #74307mparsonsSpectatorHi Heather,
There seems to be two parts to your question, the first about aborted resections and the second about recurrence post resection. My experience regarding the first was that Dr. Selby warned that if he opened me up, and say my liver was “peppered” with sub-1 centimeter lesions (not caught by CT), or my larger lesions had grown markedly since the last CT (which already indicated it was going to be hard to get clean margins), he’d have to close me up. My surgery started at 8:00 am. I woke up in ICU at 12 o’clock…but was it noon (meaning aborted surgery) or midnight? I coudn’t ask on a ventilator! Then, from somewhere I heard a nurse say, “We’ll be with you all night.” It was midnight. With a huge sense of relief, I went back to sleep. So, I suppose that question remains until the surgeon gets eyes on it. That’s why often they will do a laproscopic exploration before committing to that long incision for the “open” surgery.
I appreciated that my surgeon was direct with us. His goal was to render me free of visible cancer, which he did with two separate resections. He also said that because of my staging – especially lymph node involvement, recurrence was very likely, and we needed a plan to address it. I did recur one year later, and have undergone multiple treatments to slow progression of the disease as much as possible.
The bottom line though is that 21 months ago I was given 3-6 months to live, and today I am still living with the disease because of surgery. The fact that your physicians think surgery is possible is the best possible news!
Best wishes to you and Gordon. We will be holding you both in our thoughts and prayers on surgery day.
Mark
August 4, 2013 at 4:59 pm #74306lainySpectatorHi Heather. I can’t compare what Teddy had as his was not in the liver, he had a Whipple. I know it begins to sound like a copout but the fact is true that each person is different and the Surgeon really does not know what he will find until he is in there. I keep saying to myself that this CC seems to only hit the strongest people! Almost like it has a brain of it’s own. It is also very true that no one can say if the CC will return and that is why our loved ones are watched so closely. I know you are only 16 days away and it is normal to become more anxious as the time gets closer. I hope Gordon has been feeling OK and many prayers are floating your way. Be Strong.
August 4, 2013 at 4:06 pm #8707heatherMemberI have been reading up alot on peoples stories and I have noticed that people are having there resections aborted. Im wanting to know, when this has happened during the process. Why it has happened…and just what to expect, be prepared for etc….
Gordon’s resection is Aug 20th and when we ask the dr about what to expect like the cancer coming back he said there just isn’t enough data to judge that, everyone is different. Gordon’s tumor is rather large 8cm after chemo but it is only in the liver and there are no other tumors and only one lymph node is involved but im not sure if the chemo killed the cancer in it or what its never been mentioned again. I need to go back and look at the notes.
Anyways any info yall have would be appreciated, I know you guys are not docs im just wanting to know your experiences or info you have researched…
Thank you,
Heather
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