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June 30, 2014 at 1:25 am #82734jetcmMember
My wife’s oncologist says that if there is a genetic mutation for which there is a drug available
that drug can be used even though it is not specifically approved for cholangiocarcinoma. Lets say there is a mutation found that ALSO can cause a certain type of Breast Cancer. If it is approved for
by the FDA the oncologist can write a script for it and will also help by calling or writing the insurance company.
This is what we were told and this oncologist is much involved with genetic sequencing. He has written a scientific paper which concludes by saying “the future of treatment for cholangiocarcinoma is NOW”. He does not believe biological or genetic treatment is years away. It can only get better but it is starting now.I would enjoy hearing other opinions, BUT these treatments are coming available NOW. Genetic testing though expensive is paid for or will be paid for by Medicare the Foundation One company has told me. If medicare does not pay for my wife’s testing, for some reason, I was told my wife will NOT be billed at all. If you are not in the medicare age group they still have a discount and payment plan.
As so many people have said on this site, get a second or third opinion. If your oncologist feels that
you have no more chemo options and genetic sequencing won’t do any good go to a center where they have faith in the future of genetic testing. I believe the statistics indicate about 70 % of people will have a mutation for which a drug could then be tried.One more thing, you may not have to qualify for a clinical study. if your testing shows there is a drug that can combat your specific mutation, it is possible to get it as I mentioned above.
Besides getting” 2-3 opinions” someone told us to “keep fighting”. This means in your life, but
also for the latest medical care! Don’t give up— as we are entering a new era in cancer treatment based on” individualized or personalized” treatment.June 19, 2014 at 12:15 am #82733pcl1029MemberIf I remembered correctly,The BINGO TRIAL was done several years ago to find out the efficacy of the chemotherapy GEMOX, vs GEMOX with Erbitux. The final findings indicated no great difference. Between the two protocols. I actually met him when he reported the final findings at ASCO2013 in Chicago last year.
By the way, there are few ,if any ,clinical trials that are currently available for the next generation gene sequencing reports like the Foundation One 250 gene reports. My opinion is that, it is nice to have the report, but it is still years away for the practical use of the report.So the benefit of such reports are secondary . You do not have to have it done if cost a lot or tissue is not available.God bless.
June 18, 2014 at 2:27 am #82731jetcmMemberIf the Lancet article has to do with the BINGO study, I was told by a University of Chicago oncologist that the study did NOT determine beforehand by genetic sequencing what the mutation was for each patient.
Without this information the study is not as reliable as it should be.
Therefore it is important to know if you have the ERGF mutation before using erbitux. If you have a different mutation it makes sense that erbitux is unlikely to work.
Because the study probably included people with many different mutations the study is flawed.
But it does mean that everyone with cc should get genetic sequencing so the MD knows the mutation and pick the right drug for targeting it.
Because cc is uncommon it is likely to be hard to find enough people with exactly the same mutation
to easily do studiesJune 10, 2014 at 6:17 pm #82732nickkSpectatorThank you all for the replies.
I will look into it and keep you updated
Nick
June 7, 2014 at 3:47 pm #82730pcl1029MemberAdding the EGFR inhibitor cetuximab (Erbitux) to standard-of-care chemotherapy for advanced biliary cancer failed to improve patient survival, according to a study published online May 20 in the Lancet Oncology.
Also during the Q & A section at ASCO 2014 in June at Chicago, a doctor who does EGFR mutation research a lot indicated the severity of the RASH response
may not correspond to the effectiveness of the EGFR inhibitor agents.God bless.
June 3, 2014 at 3:52 pm #82729valwongMemberHi Nick, welcome and am very sorry to hear about your mom’s cc. My dad is 66 and he had a successful resection 3 years ago until cc returned in his lungs last year. 9 cycles of chemo sounds like a lot, but it’s very encouraging that she is not too affected by the side effects. My dad’s ONC stopped the gem/cis combo after perhaps 4 cycles when the tumors did not shrink per CT scans.
Am sure your ONC would have mentioned, but have you considered radiation? How about targeted therapy such as Erbitux!? Erbitux is for colorectal cancer patients whose tumors have not shown KRAS mutation. The pathologists can test that for you per your ONC’s instructions.
Sending you lots of love from HongKong,
ValJune 3, 2014 at 2:42 pm #82728dianamartin65SpectatorMy husband’s doctor wouldn’t let him do it. He has 11 cm lesion in one side of liver with multiple other lesions. He said it would be too dangerous, but I am willing to hear from others about this as well, Diana
June 3, 2014 at 2:08 pm #10108nickkSpectatorDear all,
First of all may I just say that it is very reassuring for me to have found this forum.
My mother is a 64 year old lady with a history of cholangiocarcinoma (<1cm in size), originally diagnosed and surgically resected in 2010.
The tumour has recurred 2013 with 12 lung metastatic nodules 0.5-1.5 mm) in size.
She has been since then on chemo 9 cycles of Gemzar/Cisplatin and currently on 5FU. She is in excellent clinical and psychological condition but CT scan shows every 3 months tumor growth of about 10-20%.Does any of you have any ideas/experience on further treatment schemes?
Has anyone tried Cyberknife for multiple lesions?
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