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  • #50238
    andie
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    Dear Jen,

    I have been thinking of you, your Dad and family often. Like many others on this site I know exactly how you are feeling at this moment. Like Gavin said whilst it is tough it is also very precious, something I would never have imagined until I experienced it. Your Dad reminds me so much of mine, we are lucky to have amazing Dads. Keep strong.

    Lots of love to you, your Mom, your Dad and the rest of your family x

    #50237
    gavin
    Moderator

    Dear Jen,

    I just want to say to you that I am thinking of you as you go through this with your dad. Having been where you are with my dad I know how you feel and what you are going through. My dad went through these same moments of being lucid then getting confused, and when he was not confused we spent time just talking and sharing memories. Like your dad, my dad slept a lot and I would just sit with him when he slept then talk when he woke.

    That is good that you will be there a lot this weekend and also if you can take some time off work as well. This is such a tough time Jen but it is also very precious as well. A night nurse would be a good idea as it would allow your mum to get some rest, but I can understand her reluctance to have one. Has your mum spoken with your dad about getting a nurse in to help at night? We are all here for you Jen and I am thinking of you and your family.

    Hugs,

    Gavin

    #50235
    lainy
    Spectator

    Jen, I am so right there with you. If I may make a few suggestions to you? I would ask the Nurse for a commode so that dad does not have to walk away from the bed. Teddy never wanted one then was glad he did. It will be easier for all and Mom will definitely hear him using it so she will wake up and help. He probably wants his bags packed as he feels he will be going to the hospital? Don’t think for one moment, even as confused as he is, that he doesn’t know he is not doing well. He knows. It’s good for your brother that he broke down as it releases the floods and makes room to start all over again. I am curious as to what the Nurses will do for you if things do not improve. Does he have a walker to help him walk? I think a night Nurse is a good idea and although dad may balk at first he will feel relief. You could tell him that he just can’t get up and keep falling as he would end up in the hospital again. Each time he has to give in to something else to aid him, is admitting to himself that he is not getting better. They just know. The best I can do is send you some huge hugs {} {}
    and I just wish no one would ever have to go through this ever again. My thoughts are with you and your family. Be strong!

    #50234
    nancy246
    Spectator

    Dearest Jen, Hang in there. Try to take comfort in and cherish the good moments. I like how your dad has connected to Mark. Another proof that we are connected with the world that lies beyond. Hugs to you all. A special hug to your mom, tell her I am here for her. Nancy

    #50236
    jennifers
    Member

    Well, it’s become clear that Dad won’t be bouncing back from this one. 2 nights ago he fell getting out of bed, hitting his chin on the dresser. My brother (who moved back home to help Mom) heard it from the basement and got upstairs by the time Mom got out of bed… it must have terrified them both. They got him up, and while they were trying to make sure he was okay, Dad told my brother that Mark (a family member in Newfoundland) was close to dying. Mom had to tell him that he had already passed away (the day before – Dad already knew), and I guess Dad started to cry. My poor brother hasn’t had an emotional breakdown in a while, and I guess that did it for him, and he had a rough night. Later that night he got up again, emptied his bile bag, and forgot to close it, so Mom’s bed was covered in bile in the morning.
    He won’t wake Mom up, but he really can’t get up on his own now (I don’t know how a man so thin could possibly stand on his own), so she’s scared that he’ll take another fall. The nurse asked if Mom would like someone there during the night to sit up, but Mom declined. I understand why, since that would really upset Dad. He is also having far more confused moments, although other times he is entirely lucid. He also keeps asking Mom to get his bags ready (I just wish he was going somewhere where he would need them :( ).
    It’s hard to say how much time he has left, but he’s not eating at all, drinking very small amounts, sleeping most of the day, but still able to get up, swallow his own pills, use the washroom (which happens very rarely now), etc. A friend stopped by last night and he stayed in his chair in the living room for probably close to 45 minutes. He kept falling asleep, but did have a conversation with him without getting confused at all. My little girl was almost in tears with a look of such concern on her face looking up at Papa in his chair and saying “Papa owie” over and over again because his chin is a mess from the fall (and the fact that he’s getting a bit agravated and refusing to let anyone clean it for him). It was so sad.
    I will be there a lot this weekend and depending on how he is doing and if there are any changes, I think I will be taking some time off work soon to be there and help Mom out. She needs a break, even if it’s just to go grocery shopping or getting a restful sleep without worrying about Dad.
    Thinking of you all.

    Jen

    #50233
    nancy246
    Spectator

    Jen, Your strength and your families strength amazes me. I know how hard it is to let go but how you want no more suffering for your beloved dad. It will help to tell him it is okay, it will bring him peace. Your dad is leaving this world far to soon, but be certain he will not be far from you. He will be in you and surrounding you. He will be that gentle breeze, that shining star, the voice that comes out of nowhere to comfort you. As I write this I shed tears for you and hope that us all being here will give you comfort now and the difficult days ahead. My blessings to Herb and all of you. Love Nancy

    #50232
    marions
    Moderator

    Jen…….I agree with Lainy. Your entire family has endured some of the most difficult times and you continue to do so. My heart is with you at this precious time.
    All my love,
    Marion

    #50231
    lainy
    Spectator

    Hello Dear Jen, I agree that the hardest words in the world are, “I will be OK, please go to your peace”. I said that to Teddy over and over and like your Dad is worrid about his family, Teddy was worried about me so I knew it was important to tell him I would be OK as he already knew how much I loved him. And your dad like Teddy, will decide when it is his time. Remember, Teddy held on a whole day as somehow he knew that the 2 Grandsons would show up at the end and he didn’t want Robin and I to be alone even though they are teens. And, Jen he is still orchestrating our lives. I have a new story I will post separately. Jen, be strong. I found that at the end it was not as hard as watching Teddy go through what he had endured with CC. Even today I marvel at the sight of him greeting so many people who had come to walk him through to his peace. You are all going to be ok, your attitudes have been so good, just find the strength you need for now. Hugs and prayers going out to you and your family. And, if he should bounce up again, God Bless!

    #50230
    jennifers
    Member

    Dad’s condition worsened over the weekend. He barely managed to get out of bed at all, and ate next to nothing. I guess last night he told Mom that he knew she didn’t want to hear it, but he’d rather be dead then feel the way he does right now. My wonderful, strong, and amazing Mom told him that it was okay, and she understood. Can’t be easy words to speak, but it’s heartbreaking watching him in so much pain.
    It was Mom’s birthday on Sunday, and he didn’t get up at all… I went in to say bye and he could barely open his eyes to tell me he loved me. My Grandma (Mom’s mom) called me last night really upset about it as well… he’s very much a son to her, and she said it was so hard saying bye and feeling his ice cold hands on Sunday… what a hard time this is. He said that he still wanted to do chemo on Thursday (I honestly don’t think it’s possible —- I think last week wiped any energy he had right from his body), so my sister and I are going over tonight to tell him that if he’s doing it for us, to stop and to be comfortable… even though I’m sure he knows, maybe it’s time that he hears from our mouths that we are going to be okay, and that it’s okay if he’s tired. He’s still breathing normally, and no other “end” signs, but I don’t think it will be long. We will see what his nurse says today. On the other hand, we’ve thought it was time before, and he bounced back… maybe it’s just taking him longer with the chemo. We will see what this week brings, I guess.

    Thinking of you all…

    Jen

    #50229
    jennifers
    Member

    Dad had chemo on Thursday and I guess last night was awful… he was throwing up and felt horrible all night, and then didn’t eat today. I feel like this is just going to take too much out of him, but he is determined to get through 2 weeks and see if there is an improvement with the pain, so we will support him 100% with his decision.

    Lainy – reading about Teddy’s experiences reminds me so much of Dad’s. It’s like he’s taking almost the same path, with a few extra turns (like choosing chemo). Like Teddy, it has been so important from day 1 for Dad to know that things are in order, and for the most part they are.

    Andrea – how are you doing? Is your Mom handling things a bit better now? I hope you are doing well, and you are getting excited for your trip. I think of you always!

    Gavin – hospitals really are exhausting. I hope your Mom is doing okay, and the hospital visit wasn’t for anything serious! I definitely take a few minutes for myself every day (although I must admit that lately, those few minutes involve holding my sweet girl and watching her sleep (it’s quiet and peaceful… she’s not running, jumping, yelling, or saying no every 2 seconds)!!

    Nancy – we think of you all the time. I hope the scan on the 23rd shows positive results, and the chemo has worked it’s magic for Doug. I’m glad he was so well for the wedding… I’m sure many amazing memories were made that day. Hoping to see a few pictures on Tamia’s facebook soon??? Please let Doug know we are thinking of him as well!!

    Jen

    #50228
    nancy246
    Spectator

    Jen, You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers a lot right now. I am so glad your dad was able to come home again. It is much nicer for everyone. I too am surprised they are offering chemo now, but they must believe it could be of benefit. Chemo has stopped the spread of Doug’s cancer since Feb. He had his last session yesterday after 16 times. Scan on June 23rd – our fingers our crossed that it’s held at bay as long as we can.
    Interestingly enough the chemo has helped Doug’s pain immensely. Before this I never knew it was considered a pain killer. Probably what they are offering your dad has been successful in pain suppression.
    I find the constant sleeping a catch 22 situation. I worry when Doug sleeps so much, but it is peaceful and restful for him.
    Sounds like your dad is coming to terms and is at peace with his situation. I feel for you and wish you all some peace in these the hardest of times.
    Tell him there is a family in Revelstoke praying for him and his family as we walk the same path. Your family is strong. Love to you all. Nancy

    #50227
    gavin
    Moderator

    Hi Jen,

    I am glad that your dad is now back home again with you all and no doubt he will be happy to be out of the hospital. Hopefully now also his pain will be under control as well. You are right in that it is tiring for all when a loved one is in the hospital. I had forgotten how tiring it got and my mum has been in the hospital for 2 weeks and that just reminded what it was like again. I hope that through all of this that you are able to take some time for yourself, even if it is just a few minutes a day.

    Thinking of you and your dad,

    Gavin

    #50226
    andie
    Spectator

    Hi Jen,

    I have been thinking about you so much the last few days. I’m glad Dads pain is under control and he is back at home. Nothing like the comfort of your own home, and yes hospitals are so tiring.

    My Dad had a blue folder with all his arrangements and utility bills in. He wanted us to know where everything was and it was important to him that everything was in order and we knew where everything was. He was quiet obsessive about this at times.

    As for the chemo, take it day by day, your Dad will know if it’s too much for him.

    I’m off on holiday Friday but I will be thinking of you all, sending love and hugs to you and your family.

    Andrea x

    #50224
    lainy
    Spectator

    Dear Jen, I am so glad that Dad is home again, I know it is much easier on everyone. Ah, the old chemo or not to chemo. I will ever forget what an agonizing decision that was for Teddy. He asked the doctor how much time it could buy him and the doctor said a month or so and that is why he opted not to do it. He was at total peace with everything.
    You and your Mom are wise to pick up on what Dad is asking. I know that for Teddy it was so important to have his plans made. I believe it goes along with their desire to take care of their family. This is a real important part of what he is going through right now. He is only bringing to the forefront what everyone is thinking about anyway and in the long run it will ease his mind to know plans are made. IN THE OLD DAYS WE USED TO CALL IT, ‘GETTING YOUR HOUSE IN ORDER’.The day I transferred Teddy to a Hospice Facility the only question he asked me was, “Did I make plans?” He had forgotten about it. But I said yes, everything is set. And he answered, “I knew it would be, look who I am asking?”. He even made light about it then. I am just wishing comfort for Dad as that is the bottom line.

    #50225
    jennifers
    Member

    Hi Everyone,
    Quick update! Dad just got out of the hospital yesterday. They had to keep increasing the methadone since he was taking so much break through meds and still having a lot of pain. Hopefully they have it under control now, but we’ll see. They have decided (which shocked us all), to give chemo a try starting on Friday to see if it could help with the spread, and possibly make him more comfortable. It’s entirely with the understanding that if it makes him feel awful that he can stop at anytime. Right now only 2 weeks are booked, and we’ll see if it helps with the pain at all. He’s so weak that it really surprised us that they considered it at all.

    He sleeps most of the time, but at least when he’s sleeping he’s not hurting. He’s tiny (no idea what he weighs now, but it’s certainly not much) and he’s not eating, but they told him that he really needs to work on that, so I know he will try his best… he always does what the doctors tell him to! Mom is done work now, and is happy to have Dad at home. It’s exhausting being at the hospital all the time (who thought sitting could be so tiring), so it’s nice that they are are able spend time together at home together where they belong.

    Dad mentions every time any one of us see him that he needs to sit with us all together so he can discuss funeral arrangements. Mom and I were talking about how maybe he’s sensing that the time is coming and needs to talk about all of this now. We are all fine with whatever brings him peace, and if planning it all out (right down to songs) is what he wants to do, then that’s what we’ll do!

    Thinking of you all!!

    Jen

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