Miracle cancer cures? Ask for evidence

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  • #75548
    pattimelt
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    Here is the article:

    Amazing Frozen Lemons

    Many professionals in restaurants and eateries are using or consuming the entire lemon and nothing is wasted. How can you use the whole lemon without waste?
    Simple.. place the washed lemon in the freezer section of your refrigerator. Once the lemon is frozen, get your grater,and shred the whole lemon (no need to peel it) and sprinkle it on top of your foods.
    Sprinkle it to your vegetable salad, ice cream, soup, cereals, noodles, spaghetti sauce, rice, sushi, fish dishes, whisky…the list is endless.
    All of the foods will unexpectedly have a wonderful taste, something that you may have never tasted before. Most likely, you only think of lemon juice and vitamin C. Not anymore.
    Now that you’ve learned this lemon secret, you can use lemon even in instant cup noodles.
    What’s the major advantage of using the whole lemon other than preventing waste and adding new taste to your dishes?
    Well, you see lemon peels contain as much as 5 to 10 times more vitamins than the lemon juice itself. And yes, that’s what you’ve been wasting.
    But from now on, by following this simple procedure of freezing the whole lemon, then grating it on top of your dishes, you can consume all of those nutrients and get even healthier.
    It’s also good that lemon peels are health rejuvenators in eradicating toxic elements in the body.
    So place your washed lemon in your freezer, and then grate it on your meal every day. It is a key to make your foods tastier and you get to live healthier and longer! That’s the lemon secret! Better late than never, right? The surprising benefits of lemon!
    ***** Lemon (Citrus) is a miraculous product to kill cancer cells. It is 10,000 times stronger than chemotherapy.
    Why do we not know about that? Because there are laboratories interested in making a synthetic version that will bring them huge profits.
    You can now help a friend in need by letting him/her know that lemon juice is beneficial in preventing the disease. Its taste is pleasant and it does not produce the horrific effects of chemotherapy.
    How many people will die while this closely guarded secret is kept, so as not to jeopardize the beneficial multimillionaires large corporations?
    As you know, the lemon tree is known for its varieties of lemons and limes.
    You can eat the fruit in different ways: you can eat the pulp, juice press, prepare drinks, sorbets, pastries, etc… It is credited with many virtues, but the most interesting is the effect it produces on cysts and tumors.
    This plant is a proven remedy against cancers of all types. Some say it is very useful in all variants of cancer. It is considered also as an anti microbial spectrum against bacterial infections and fungi, effective against internal parasites and worms, it regulates blood pressure which is too high and an antidepressant, combats stress and nervous disorders.
    The source of this information is fascinating: it comes from one of the largest drug manufacturers in the world, says that after more than 20 laboratory tests since 1970, the extracts revealed that It destroys the malignant cells in 12 cancers, including colon, breast, prostate, lung and pancreas…
    The compounds of this tree showed 10,000 times better than the product Adriamycin, a drug normally used chemotherapeutic in the world, slowing the growth of cancer cells.
    And what is even more astonishing: this type of therapy with lemon extract only destroys malignant cancer cells and it does not affect healthy cells.
    So, give those lemons a good wash, freeze them and grate them. Your whole body will love you for it!!!!!

    #75547
    pattimelt
    Participant

    i am using the Frankincense oil. It is a pure essential oil & can’t hurt anything. Today I got a message from a friend that if you freeze a whole lemon & grate it all after it is frozen & put it on everything you eat & drink that it is a cancer cure because of the vitamin C.

    #75546
    willow
    Participant

    I agreed, GREAT conversation to begin with and thanks too fir such informative and concise explanation in LAYMANS terms from Marion. It reiterates Percy’s point that we can’t all just talk about the problem but action is necessary to help those with cancers and specifically this rare cancer. Problem is we’re not all so savvy and educated in the workings of this complex world where business and medicine combine. I want yo add my two cents that just as there’s big bucks to be made from traditional meds, many are making big bucks selling the natural or non western remedies. Marion’s put it so well in that many alternative treatments might help but they need expensive proper studies to prove it.
    Love and peace,
    Willow

    #75545
    gavin
    Moderator

    What a great discussion and my thanks to all for everything that you have posted. And Carl, please do not stop posting on this or any subject! You most certainly did not offend me or anyone else at all with what you said. As everyone has said, this is an open forum for everyone and everything is up for discussion.

    Thanks to Marion and Percy too for your thoughts on the pharma industry and the Foundation and also for letting us know more about the medical advisory council and the work that they do, it is very exciting! Sorry I couldn’t take more part in this discussion, up to my knees in decorating, plastering and cleaning stuff!

    My thanks and hugs to all!

    Gavin

    #75544
    mcwgoat
    Participant

    Marion,

    Thank you for your tireless efforts in advocating for us stricken with this terrible disease.

    Mary

    #75543
    lainy
    Participant

    Impressive, impressive, many thanks. I know you worked hard for this, like a year or more and lots of meetings. Thank you so much and even though you are about 2 inches taller than me to me you are 10 feet tall. I also believe that Bruce knows all that you do for CC and how committed you are and that you don’t take to compliments well so figure this to be my last! LOL

    #75542
    marions
    Moderator

    Good questions, Lainy. The medical advisory counsil is supporting the organization in numerous ways. For one, the majority of physicians are engaged in the NCI North American Hepatobiliary Task Force of which I hold one position in Advocacy. This Task Force develops phase II/III clinical trials for HCC and for Cholangiocarcinoma. In that regard they are furthering research into this disease. Additionally, we receive numerous grant requests for research support – again, this is something we will look to the advisors for. We are in the process of setting the agenda for our first conference and expect several members of the medical council to contribute either in person or by submitting abstracts, posters or other material. Things will evolve – we will keep everyone posted.

    Given that all have a huge patient load, oversee their patients in care and clinical trials, submit abstracts, support clinical, investigate literature, develop clinical trials, attend and lead numerous, medical symposiums, it is unlikely for any to be able to respond to any of our individual question. But these physicians and others are instrumental in driving research and/or applying their expertise to the patient community at large.

    Doctors are in a precarious position in that it is difficult to answer specific questions without prior knowledge of the history of the patient. Hence, in order interact personally; patients will have to go through the normal channels.

    Hope this helped.

    Hugs,
    Marion

    #75541
    lainy
    Participant

    Marion, I told my GI guy how he was a twin to Dr. Javle and I checked out that post of yours once again and I am just speechless, yes me, at the whose who, wow! I have one question though so I understand better and that is, can you tell us a little more in what capacity all these wonderful ONCs are aboard for. Like is theirs a special Board or ONCs that patients/caretakers can contact for opinions?

    #75540
    marions
    Moderator

    Ha, ha, Lainy…I am a bit taller though in physical size.

    #75539
    lainy
    Participant

    Marion so well said! AND…..I want to be just like you when I grow up!
    Wait, I am grown up. Oh well at least we are the same size!

    #75538
    marions
    Moderator

    I agree with what has been mentioned. This organization was built on the need of addressing a disease little understood and one that is grossly overlooked. We have volunteered thousands of hours to further the cause of this devastating cancer. We want answers, we want resolutions, and we want a cure, as does every physician and researcher I have been privileged to work with.

    Lung, Colon, Breast, Pancreatic and Prostrate Cancer represent 50% of (potentially) fatal cancer diagnoses in the US. Hence, we see where the focus is placed by the government and subsequently by the pharmaceutical industry.

    About $200 billion have been spent on cancer research since the early 1970s. As far as I know, the cancer survival rate only has increased from 50 percent to 65 percent today.

    Medicine is a business and we are the pawns in this business. To bring a new drug to the market approximately 1 billion dollars have been spent and 5 to 7 years have elapsed.

    More than 90% of all drugs will not make it to the market.

    Having said that, like everyone else we are frustrated with the system, how we develop drugs, and how much money is made for those benefitting from the financial gain.

    Researchers can identify cells or pathways, but eventually it will take drugs to prove the response of the cancerous cells. Institutional Medical Researchers don’t develop drugs – Pharma does.

    Clinical Trials have to be conducted in order to prove that patients can tolerate the drug (toxicity) Phase I. Phase II is to prove the patient response in a larger control group (generally 80 to 100 patients, Phase III compares the new drug to the standard of care. If indeed a drug shows overwhelming positive response, it can be fast tracked by the FDA and subsequently be administered to the patient. The greatest financial gain by Pharma is due to the off-label use of a particular drug. In other words, a drug shows promise in other cancers also.

    And, this is it in a nutshell; not a pretty picture for those not fortunate to be lucky enough to benefit from the positive developments.

    It is for that reason that patients need to take an active role in their medical care. Natural remedies may work, but have not been proven in clinical trials. As noted, it requires millions of dollars and more in order to conduct cohort medical studies. But, given the situation people are entitled to make choices and so they should.

    Have we won the war on cancer? No, we are not even close to it. Will we see much in the next few years – I find it doubtful certainly concerning our cancer.

    We are a small group in comparison to most of the other cancer hence, we need to stick together, work together, and if possible help each other in the most positive way imaginable.

    This organization volunteers hundreds and thousands of hours to this cause. We are represented in the NCI, FDA, NIH and numerous other organizations. We have helped bring this cancer out of obscurity by connecting those affected by this disease. We started by handing out leaflets at major medical conferences (literally, Sara and I occupied the exit doors.)

    Behind the scene the work is endless, but we are driven by passion and commitment with only one goal: to bring life saving treatments to those affected by this rare and little understood disease.

    My two cents.

    Hugs to all,
    Marion

    #75537
    kvolland
    Participant

    Sorry I opened such a big can of worms on this. I guess I kind of equate all the “cancer cures” out there the same as all the weight loss short cuts on TV right now….if they really worked we would all be a size 2 (tongue in cheek there). I just know what I have seen as the result of them. I do also know that like diabetes (which we deal with in our house too) there is no financial gain for these companies to cure either one of them. It’s kind of darned if you do and darned it you don’t.
    But, it’s not me with the cancer and I am not sure how I would be if it was me….
    It has been a good and considerate discussion too. I appreciate everyone’s opinions and it’s good to see things from others’ views.

    KrisV

    #75536
    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi,Carl,

    You are a gentleman in expressing of how you feel about big pharma’s inability to satisfy the need of the patients. Nothing need to say sorry for others and in fact you are not off the target that much.
    Big Pharma are business entities and they serve their share holder’s interest first. They do not operate on providing cures for disease, they operate on margins. And I know you may have known about this
    . I ,at times,feel the same way as You do,even I know FDA has all those “fast tract or breakthrough status” and “orphan drug “pathway to encourage drug companies to apply for new drug application. so far for the last three years, FDA on average had been approved 25-30 new drug entities .and that was from the tens of thousands of new found polymers ie: small molecules to proteins from the labs ,going thru the evaluation process,then put thru animals studies,to eliminate down to only hundreds and go thru the IND( investigational new drug) applications from FDA and start the clinical trials ,by the time it reach the end of phase II, the chance of going all out into phase III may be down to just less than a hundred . And to completely become a new drug and then apply NDA and be approved by FDA,it will take for about a year.
    In short, for a chemical compound or polymer discovered from the lab to become a new drug approved by FDA is between 7-14 years.
    The fastest approval by FDA that I knew of thru an official of them was 6 months from start to finish and I believed the new drug approval was thru the “orphan drug status.
    I am as frustrating as you are in finding better solutions for your wife and myself and I understand that as patient advocates, we ,ourself have to do something of more constructive for this disease than just talking about it. Your answer in the other message about “going thru a new mall” is one of the best suggestion to solve the current problem about our web site.
    You are not demanding the people and this web site to do this way and not that way to satisfy you,you want to help the people who will visit the mall later and have a more enjoyable shopping experience.you are a very considerate person.. You just suggest and explain your intention in a friendly and easy to understand way. This requires good communication skill and temperament to do that and in doing so, you only do not offend any body but care about others feeling. For that I am grateful .
    God bless.

    #75535
    thebompie4
    Member

    OH! and that’s the new book our new Dr recommended we read!
    how interesting!

    #75534
    thebompie4
    Member

    carl

    i totally wasn’t offended.

    sorry if it came across that i was.

    not even a teeny bit offended.

    i still just think that *IF* there were other answers that really
    worked–cancer would be cured. that’s all i’m saying. :)

    I have not seen any alternative treatments do any better
    (and sometimes they are worse at stopping the progression
    of cancer) than chemo or radiation.

    I know people who have LITERALLY sold it all to pursue
    alternative treatments, and they died just like the guy doing
    chemo.

    I *personally* have yet to be convinced that ANY treatment
    (conventional OR alternative) is a cure for many types of
    cancers. Cancer is seen winning the battle way too often
    for my taste regardless of treatment options chosen.

    And for whomever posted about Doterra, I’m laughing…
    we have a bottle of Frankensence (sp?) oil from them.

    Kyle still has cancer…darn it! It didn’t work. (that is just
    some sarcasm in case you can’t hear my tone.!) ;)

    but really, he still does have cancer.

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