My trip to the Naturopath
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EVERYONE PLEASE REMEMBER TO TAKE NOTHING WITHOUT FIRST TALKING WITH YOUR ONC! I KNEW SOMEONE WHO WENT THE NATURAL PATH WAY WITH LYMPHOMA AND HE JUST PASSED THIS LAST DECEMBER AT 52 YEARS OLD!
In order to avoid the surgery and consumption of drugs, Naturopath treatment has also come to the forth. It deals with the insertion of a special kind of energy in human body so that power can be gained to sustain in cancer. It completely rejects the intake of those medicines that can cause further side effects. The medicines that are used here do no harm and at the same time they guarantee complete recovery if the disease is diagnosed at the right time.
Hi,Renee,
“The best our Oncology Nurse Practitioner would comment was that some could not hurt, others were a waste of money…she bought them all anyway. “
This statement may be too general in answering questions related to chemotherapy especially the relatively new comer the “targeted agents therapy.”
Most of the patients by now should know not to take medications with grapefruit juice or with alcohol due to drug-food or drug -drug interaction in general.
But the targeted agents (TA)are relatively new and the side effects are still gathering data in Phase IV after market studies or from reports directly coming from the practice of oncologists who report the drug’s side effects which may not list on the package insert. and most of the “target agents” package inserts recommended not to use herbal or any diet supplements like St. John’s wart or even OTC medications,which is FDA approved like Zantac, Nexium and Pepcid etc. (do not take them together with TA)
When is in doubt,look it up ;sometimes most the medical professionals can give general information to answer general questions,but when it comes to your or my life, it is our lives and not theirs to pay more attention to research
or find out what is the proper and best interest to help medicated our self.
God bless.If you want the name of an herbal apothecary I can steer you to one I believe is very reputable. I have been seeing a nutritionist (with good credentials) who puts in orders to an apothecary in Silver Spring, MD. You could call them. Even though I am close by, they ship to me. I am mainly taking a tincture of turmeric (even Johns Hopkins Magazine published an article this month on the benefits of turmeric as effective treatment for cancer..they are conducting a study). I had to give up the reishi as I got a rash from it. I am also taking ashwanganda and ginseng. I do understand hesitations to start taking anything too “out there” and may have risks to the liver!
Percy, thank you for your response.
I guess if I feel the need, I could take my chances on someone relatively local. The same friend who bought into the cannabis oil went to a nurse who practices naturopathic medicine, and walked out with recommendations for hundreds of dollars worth of supplements that she could purchase through their practice…surprise. The best our Oncology Nurse Practitioner would comment was that some could not hurt, others were a waste of money…she bought them all anyway.
Thank you for your ‘personal opinion that is not intended nor implied to be a substitute for professional medical advice’. I fully understand that, and appreciate your time and research that becomes beneficial so many of us on this site.
Take Care, Renée
Hi, Renee,
I can honestly say to you, I really do not know any any reliable TCM practitioner myself here in the STATES, not to mention about how to get ” good quality product” of Chinese herbal medicine. I only know a few essential herbal products for herbal soups usage , beyond that , I bet most of us who came from the other side of the earth,the Far East may be except a few,do not really have a clue about the herbal products even if I bring my Chinese herbal bible with colorful pictures and “the how to select” section including technique such as size, touch,smell etc. In the good old days, you trust the name of the drug store( herbal shop) for the products they sold. Nowadays, when the New China liberated to become the second largest economy in the world, there are no more such association anymore.
Western medicine practice , in my opinion , is more scientific and based on more objective research on drugs and devices. Of course, do they , the medical professionals make unintentional mistakes, the answer is yes, because we all are human. Did some bad apples on the tree make other look poorly,absolutely.
But to give up and believe some other magical poison”can cure all” through advertisement like one of your friend you mentioned on another message is sad.
God bless.Hi Percy.
How would one know if they are getting ‘good quality product’? Do you have some resources you would be able to recommend?Not living in a major metropolitan area, being somewhat sandwiched between NYC and Philly on the Jersey Shore does not count as a mecca for Eastern Medicine, or even Western Medicine at times. I would not recognize a reliable source on the internet. And I do not know anyone who is well versed in Eastern Medicine or CAM.
Even though I have been taking some for decades, I sometimes find it difficult to wrap my head around taking vitamins, herbals and supplements. How does one know that they are doing the job you intended them to do? And how do you know when you are getting ‘good quality product’? It is not like taking a bite of delicious chocolate and knowing you got the ‘good stuff’.
Similarly, the reality of chemo or any cancer treatment is that we never know for sure what is working until it stops working. It is all a leap of faith. You roll the dice and take your chances without regret.
Thank you in advance for any thoughts on the matter, Renée
Hi,
another interesting herbs is Astragalus.as always,make sure the “quality of the product” is of the utmost concern.
God bless.
Hi, Eli,
Yes, it is interesting.that is why knowledge may play a role in all of these conversations on this message board. But then again, it may or may not work.For me, as a patient, all I can say about using CAM is,after researching reading and choosing what I think is the best CAM method to help myself, I will have no regrets when the time has come.
Good luck again tomorrow.
God bless.Hi, Susie,
The answer is no. I did not take or try to use melatonin because of you need a relative high dose(20-40mg) in order to attain some benefit to fight cancer from melatonin. Last year ,when I went to the DDW convention here sponsored by this foundation, I met the author of a poster which used IV melatonin for treatment of cancer. He insisted it works but required a much higher dose in IV formulation.
As you know melatonin is a sleeping aid used in the States(ie: dose=3mg at bedtime without RX); its side effect is therefore very logical– drowsiness which I do not want when I need to work in the morning. plus 3mg is too small a dose for anticancer or immuno enhanced activities;and IV formulation is definitely not my choice of treatment if I can avoid.
I hope I answer your question.
God bless.Hi Percy,
You mentioned that you take Yunzhi extract. Wikipedia says that Yunzhi is Chinese name of Trametes versicolor mushroom. The same mushroom is also known as Coriolus versicolor, or Polyporus versicolor, or Turkey Tail. American Cancer Society has a page about this mushroom:
Here’s the part that caught my attention:
Quote:In the 1980s, the Japanese government approved the use of PSK for treating several types of cancer. In Japan, PSK is a best-selling anti-cancer drug where it is currently used as a cancer treatment along with surgery, chemotherapy, and radiation therapy.PSK refers to the substance extracted from this mushroom.
This mushroom is interesting… thanks for mentioning!
Eli
Hi Susie,
I want to respond to what you wrote:
Quote:So, do I want to take them or not? I’m leaning on taking them because here are my thoughts. There has to be some type of underlying issue in my body that allowed this cancer to grow that hasn’t been dealt with. I had the tumor removed, had chemo and radiation, all which focused on killing the tumor, not with fixing whatever problem caused it to grow. So, if the problem isn’t fixed, why wouldn’t it grow back?Cancer is far more random than you give it credit. It may very well be that your body does NOT have any underlying issue that allowed your cancer to grow. It may be just bad luck. I have read that every single human being, and I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE, carries multiple gene mutations that may potentially lead to cancer. Most people don’t develop cancer because we have a defense system to keep the unhealthy cells in check. But no defense system is perfect. Sometimes the defense fails for some purely random reason.
You called supplements “the stupid things”. It’s obvious that you feel uneasy about taking them. I think you should think about supplements some more. Don’t pressure yourself into doing something you are not comfortable with.
Take care,
EliHi,
Just let you know I took maitake mushroom extract PROx3 35 gtts BID (twice a day) after the first resection and the CCA returned after 2 years.
I stop taking it now after my 2nd resection and I am testing another herbal capsule call Yunzhi extract.brand name is “oncozac” -an immuno enhanced agent which is used thousands of years in the far east countries, 4 capsules twice daily. I also take D3 1000-2000units twice a day.
The reasoning behind the Yunzhi exact is : it is an immuno enhanced agent, that means it help the patient who is in remission, to increase his/her body defense systems to fight for the left over or hiding cancer cells that are too small to show up on the scans.
In general,most of the solid tumors appeared on the CAT scan or MRI only when they reach the sizes of about 1 cm3 in size;below that size,it is difficult to detect;and immuno enhanced agents work best when the tumors are in the earlier developmental stage,that is in general, the immuno enhanced agents work best when the tumor is below the sizes of 0.5cm3. and this is my reasoning behind taking the Yunzhi extract. Other immuno enhanced agents may work in the same way .
God bless.
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