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November 3, 2016 at 7:15 pm #62420marionsModerator
Julie…..happy you are home and feeling o.k. Please know that I am printing out your post. One never knows how life turns out and I too will need a bone marrow biopsy. Hoping for the adhesive problem not to resurface, I am sending good wishes for a great report.
Hugs
MarionNovember 3, 2016 at 5:42 pm #62422redSpectatorYahoo………………Just read it’s over!!!! Fingers are crossed (and all sorts of other things) for good news on the results.
Red
November 3, 2016 at 4:13 pm #62421darlaSpectatorJulie,
Glad all went smoothly and hoping for good reports. I had a similar experience years ago with a bone marrow biopsy. They thought I had lupus which it turned out was misdiagnosed. I agree that it was not as bad as I was expecting. Mine was taken out of my spine. I was also numbed up and all I felt at the time was some pressure and afterwards a bit of soreness. Much like a bruise. I agree that it is not painful or anything to be afraid of. Hoping we can alleviate some fears for others. We will all patiently await hearing from you on the results. Take care.
Hugs,
DarlaNovember 3, 2016 at 3:44 am #62423lainySpectatorOh, JUJU, I am so glad that is over. Are you trying to experience everything there is so you can relay to everyone what to expect? My Mother-I-law had Leukemia and I am going back 55 years ago and I remember they did not numb anything! We have come a long way. I am so glad it is over and that is ENOUGH!
November 3, 2016 at 2:51 am #62405iowagirlMemberI’m HOME!!!! The biopsy of my bone marrow is done. Nothing more to do now except to wait for the results. Unfortunately, that will be 2-3 days.
Just in case anyone reading this ever has to have a bone marrow biopsy, I thought I would post the experience here to allay some fears and give some advice:
First, the hematologist (who I thought would be the one doing the biopsy told us that at Mayo, they have a “team” who do 2000-3000 of them per year and they are “slick” at what they do. He said, that we didn’t want him to do it…that he can do it, but not frequently enough to be as good as the “team”. Quote: “You don’t want a part -timer doing this.”
So, it is very important with a bone marrow biopsy that it is done by someone who does a LOT of them..
We arrived at the center in the Gonda Bldg at Mayo where they do such procedures at 12:45 after not eating or drinking a number of hours. They did all the usual checks of BP, temp, and questions, question, questions to plug into the computer. Then, there was the IV. The nurse looked and decided against making the attempt herself since I told her that there have been difficulties in the past. The guy, a nurse, who was to do the procedure (yes, a nurse….obviously well-trained in doing this) came in and put in the IV.
I thought that I would be changing into a “gown” but no, I was to leave on my street clothes. Remarkable.
I was sitting in a chair with siderails..which had the capability to go into a full recline. I was wheeled in that chair to the procedure room, that was very small. It was just the nurse doing the procedure and his anesthesia assistant who set up the sedation and handled that part. After about 5-10 min of getting tubing in better places they proceded to get me in the right position.
I was asked to lie on my right side with my back up to the side rail (after I was put into a full recline). Once they had me just right…they adjusted the waist band of my jeans to reveal the upper part of the hip bone. ..The sedation began gradually, to see how much was needed to get me to the point that I did not talk back to them (good luck on that).
The whole procedure was no more than about 20 min., and I was awake before leaving the procedure room. I was then wheeled back to the holding /recovery room…back where I started…..where my husband was waiting. I stayed there about an hour….ate some toast with jam and drank some pop…and was dismissed to go home. WOW!!!
The procedure itself involved a small, sixteenth of an inch cut in the skin over the hipbone. They also numbed the area with a local anesthetic. They insert first a needle into that cut and push it into the bone where they aspirate bone marrow. After that, they with draw that needle and then use another kind of hollow needle to get a core type biopsy of the bone marrow, which will be looked at to see the bone marrow as it is in my bone….not all mixed up as it is in an aspiration.
They put a pressure bandage over the area where the cut was made….which will stay on 24 hours. At that time, it comes off and IF I want to put a bandaid on it, I can. They said it may ooze slightly for a while, so I might want to put a bandaid on. However, I am allergic to most adhesives that are on bandages and bandaids. I’m going to have a hard enough time with the bandage they already put on it. The allergy causes really bad burning and can actually blister my skin. Obviously, most people don’t have that problem. I may just wear old clothes and not worry about it after I take off their bandage. we’ll see. Some areas of my body are more sensitive to the adhesive than others.
So, upon dismissal, we first went to a BBQ place for late lunch, since I hadn’t eaten for almost 24 hours. I had a three hour ride home from Mayo. By the time we got home, I am starting to feel a deep discomfort in the area of the biopsy. They told me that would be about what I’d feel for about 7 days. I’ve read 2-3 days…..and some people had nothing. I am to take Tylenol or use an ice pack if it bothers a lot. Also, I’m to watch for a temp over 100.4 (indicating an infection). However, while there are always possibilities of infection and bleeding, they said that was rarely ever something that happened. Since I am so far away….if there is bleeding or temperature…I am to go to the local hospital.
So, that is it. The words, “Bone Marrow Biopsy” conjures up thoughts of a procedure that must be horribly painful. I freely admit that Is where my head was before today. I’m so glad to report that it doesn’t have to be the case. That said, the hematologist made it very clear to us that having it done by someone who did these biopsies every day and many, many of them was very important for more comfort.
Now, the hardest part starts…and that is…waiting…waiting….waiting for the results. They said 2-3 days. That puts us up very close to the weekend, but I’m hoping I do not have to suffer through the weekend to wait until Monday. They said that my oncologist will give me the results and discuss them. So, I’m expecting them to call us with the results and then make another appt very soon to go back up there to start treatment to try to treat whatever problem is found. At this point, it’s out of my hands. I have to sit back….trust in the Lord, the lab people and the doctors ……..
Julie
November 2, 2016 at 11:19 pm #62406marionsModeratorJulie…..no derailment, a side sweep at best. Hang in there, as know you will and know that you have a huge fan club sending tons of good wishes your way.
Talk soon,
Hugs
MarionNovember 2, 2016 at 4:40 am #62407lainySpectatorWOW! It does sound like this DOC cares! I won’t email you while you are under sedation! LOL well just a little smile if you can’t LOL! I will anxiously be awaiting the outcome and praying for the best!
November 2, 2016 at 3:46 am #62408iowagirlMemberMarion,
Well, the suspense novel continues. We got to the edge of Rochester to drive about 20 miles to visit a cousin when hubby’s cell phone rang….it was the hematologist we had just seen. He had been going over my file and found that he had missed seeing that I’d had the blood smear last week and he saw the results. Because I had come to him today with so many pieces of data and questions, …..he felt he should see if we could come back so he could talk more with us. Soooooo, back to downtown Rochester to the Mayo Clinic area…drop me off, park the car, grab a wheel chair (still having some vertigo problems and always back arthritis) and we zoomed up to 10th floor Mayo Building. We were escorted in right away…but waited about 10-15 min before the Dr. came in. He went over the test with us….telling us that by seeing that, he was altering his best guess as to what we would be seeing with the bone marrow. That is….he believes now that it will probably be ……Myleodysplatic Disease…..basically…the bone marrow stops working right for at least one or more components (though in this case, he thinks the platelets are the one that is not working right because the graphing shows that they have precipitously dropped. The other stuff still has to be ruled out….but in the grand scheme of things….this has about a 30% chance of eventually converting to leukemia. Otherwise, it is a continuous attempt to control it…..drugs….transfusions….destroying blasts….etc, etc…stem cell transplant. Even if they could diagnose it for sure from the blood smear of last week…..they would not be able to tell us the extent of the disease without doing the bone marrow biopsy.
He told us earlier that they have a team to do the biopsies…..they do 2000-3000 per year there….and they are “slick” at it . (His word). He said you don’t want a “part timer” ….you want somebody that it’s just about all they do. The more they do…the faster they are….the better they are….the less pain for you.
Oh…and I will be out with conscious sedation. No question….he said I could be awake if I wanted….but he’d do the sedation (heck yes….I want to be OUT!).
So, tomorrow at 12:45 p.m. I will take a short slumber…..the procedure will be about half an hour….and then they will wait for me to wake up and be able to move around. Then, we go back home (3 hours) to wait 2-3 days for the results.
It could always show “nothing” unusual, but after seeing the smear results, he seemed pretty sure of what it might show. If it is myleodysplastic disease, then besides my oncologist, I will be seen by a hemotogloist who specializes in this blood marrow disorder. My oncologist will direct things.
We all talk about the CC roller coaster, but this coaster is about ready to derail.
Julie
November 1, 2016 at 1:26 pm #62409lainySpectatorSister, Julie, PLEASE tell Mayo about the dry heaving and I agree a little outside help may really help in getting through this even if the dry heaving had not started. My goodness you have been through so much and I know you are a good trooper and a real champ! A little extra help can’t hurt. I know the 2 little guys are a big help but perhaps you need another type of boost. Don’t wait, do it now, dry heaving can be awful, been there done it! Wish I had a magic wand to wave it all away!
November 1, 2016 at 5:43 am #62410iowagirlMemberThank you guys for being here for my rants…….this would be almost impossible to get though without you. I was talking with another CC survivor several weeks ago and she said something about after going through all this it felt like PTSD (Post tramatic stress disorder). I have to say that I agree. Things that used to just roll off my back……now cause extreme anxiety. No more than 5 years ago, if a doctor would have said they needed to do a surgery with local antisectic, I wouldn’t have blinked. But now, even walking into a room to get an IV causes the tears to roll before they’ve done anything to me. So many times,….so many unpleasant procedures….so many times….so much bad news……after a while, ….you just start to expect the worst……regarding news and pain. I have many times that images of surgeries…chemos…etc….come into my head…..and all the feelings come rushing back. PTSD for cancer patients is real. The emotional trauma is real. I think it may be time to talk again with the oncology psychologist who worked with me during chemo.
November 1, 2016 at 5:26 am #62412iowagirlMemberMarion, We came home last Friday afternoon…..got the phone call from the PA about the results of the brain scan and blood tests as we were clearing the edge of Rochester. We were to go ahead and go home and they would set up an appt this week with the hematologist. Our appt is tomorrow early afternoon, so we are leaving tomorrow morning for the three hour drive for the consult. At that time, we will find out what the hematologist wants to do, but the point of the consult was to discuss the idea of a bone marrow biopsy with a hematologist and get one scheduled if he says yes. I can’t imagine him saying no. The only thing that might change it would be if they did a blood test for the platelets and hemoglobin again……to see if there was an increase in either or both. That is not scheduled…but perhaps they will still do that once we get back up there. It hasn’t been mentioned. The bone marrow biopsy has not been set up yet because we haven’t had the consult with hematology yet.
New symptom….not sure if it is related to shortness of breath….or the asthma I have …or just what…..but in the past two days, I have started dry heaving again. The asmanex inhaler had stopped that before……and I was just congratulating myself that the problem was gone….and boom….it’s back. Such fun.
November 1, 2016 at 4:26 am #62411marionsModeratorJulie….if it weren’t so upsetting one could believe you are writing a suspense novel. I admire your strength and determination and would have handled the situation in a similar way. Are you still at Mayo or are you returning for the bone marrow biopsy?
Thinking of you lots,
Hugs
MarionOctober 31, 2016 at 9:49 pm #62413iowagirlMemberI saw my GP this morning after finding a new Mayo Clinical note from the phys. assist. It outlined the full problem they found with the blood smear as far as that could go. After my GP read it….she said that a bone marrow biopsy was definitely what was needed to find out what is going on in the bone marrow. She still mentioned the possibility that I lack a gene that makes sulva (and other drugs) damage platelet counts. It’s a fairly common gene deficiency, but more common in males, specifically black males, …..with the radio of men to women being aobut 2 to 1 from what I saw on line. Hmmm…..I do have some black heritage in my family history (we just discovered this two years ago), so who knows…..except for the guy part….maybe I get lucky and that’s the problem. It can resolve fairly fast….or it can take a long time, dpending on the person.
OR…..it could be leukemia.
Here is what the report says:
“Periferal smear identified B-Cell population. Given findings and history of chronic lympocytosis, flow cytometric immunophenotyping performed. This shows 1% myeloid lineage blasts present and rare dysgranualar neutrophils. Samm lambda light chain restricted B-Cell population detected, represents approximaely 16% of total analyzed events. Significance uncertain. “The one take away was that there were two words at the end of the report that indicated, “significance unknown” . In other words they just can’t make a diagnosis based on the seen evidence….it isn’t sufficient.
So, more waiting, more chewing nails. I didn’t “want” to do a bone marrow biopsy…who would….but a nurse friend said to push for it (you know who you are) and my GP agreed that is what I would want them to do. And no…it isn’t pleasant….but I will get through it too.
October 31, 2016 at 3:43 pm #62414debnorcalModeratorJulie,
Wonderful news about success in treating your isolated recurrence. I also hope this bone marrow issue proves to be minor as well. Hang in there, keep taking things one step at a time.
Debbie
October 31, 2016 at 10:28 am #62419gavinModeratorHi Julie,
That is great news about the CC but so good news about the other stuff. Huge GRRRRR to other stuff. Hope that they can get to the root of all of this new stuff and get it sorted asap. I too hope that all goes well on Tuesday at Mayo and will be keeping my fingers crossed for you. Loads of positive vibes coming your way as well. Cheerleader outfits all round!!
Hugs,
Gavin
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