Newly diagnosed, had whipple, awaiting chemo
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February 25, 2010 at 10:33 pm #34769gailMember
Randi,
I hope your recovery has continued to go well. I didn’t see what you decided to do.
My husband is 8 days post Whipple surgery. He had 8 months of chemo prior to his Whipple (after the 1st attempt failed). He was in extraordinarily good health prior to his diagnosis, which everyone thinks contributed to him managing his treatment so well. His biggest side effedct was fatigue, but that really just translated into him going to bed at a decent hour. The Xeloda did a number on his hands and feet. But other than that, he exercised, traveled, skied, chopped wood (often on Fridays right after his treatment!) and shoveled snow.
His Onc is planning on 3 more months of chemo, possibly followed by radiation, once he gets the go-ahead from his surgeon. Personally, we were both happy the hear that that’s what he had in mind. We consider it insurance (though realize there are no guarantees).
I wish you well.
Gail
February 24, 2010 at 10:39 pm #34768lainySpectatorHi Kate. My husband Teddy had a Whipple 4 1/2 years ago and is now 77. It was interesting to me that in the UK they do not give chemo after a successful Whipple as that is what 4 different doctors told us here. Teddy’s Whipple was successful and they said no to chemo. He had a tumor return a year ago where his duodenum used to be and we zapped that with cyber knife. He now has 2 new small ones and oddly enough they seem to be shrinking for no apparent reason. Both the Onc and the Radman think its something in his hormones! We’ll take it! At any rate the Radman said we will again attack with cyber knife if they start to grow. Life is good!
February 24, 2010 at 9:38 pm #34767katjaMemberGerry
I hope that your experience post-Whipple will be something like my dad’s. He had a Whipple Jan 13th and spent 12 days in hospital. His first few days were really hard as his epidural wasn’t working and he had a reaction to the morphine, but after that his recovery has so far been really speedy. He was able to eat after around a week and has been eating most things since then, with no ill effects, and not always taking the creon (enzymes). I believe leakages are a fairly common and worrying complication, although they usually clear up, but my dad had no problems like this.
He is 6 weeks out of surgery and asking about when he can get back to swimming, walking at least a mile or two every day.Being in the UK we seem to have a different procedure for chemo, in that usually none is given if the ‘curative’ resection is deemed to be successful. My dad has been recruited onto a trial (BILCAP) which is testing chemo with Xeloda (Capecitabine) against simple observation to see if chemo makes a difference to recurrence. Personally I would prefer him to be offered chemo, which seems to happen in the states? Anyway we will find out soon which part of the trial he is on.
I hope your surgery is successful and you are soon back to ‘near normal’ if that’s possible.
KateJanuary 18, 2010 at 8:24 pm #34766hollandgMemberRandi
Its good to hear that you can get back to work so quickly and work part-time if necessary. Flexibility is important whether you take-up the chemo option or not. I started my 1st chemo session on Friday (oxiplatin/gemzar) at the out-patients unit. The session went very well (no major side effects) and I was able to get back to work today. I’m a banker and I get great support from work colleagues and superiors (very welcome st the moment). From talking to other patients on chemo (at the Out-patients unit), its clear that they take a sensible approach by putting their own welfare first, some work full/part-time (but that depends on their individual circumstances) and the job they do.Keep well
Gerry
January 18, 2010 at 12:53 am #34765marionsModeratorRandi…..on top task bar: Cholangiocarcinoma, scroll down to major cancer centers. In addition too: google search (top, right hand side) when entering “chemo after resection” you will be able to read up on previous postings regarding this subject. Others may also share their opinions with you and why they chose a treatment over no treatment, (or, the reverse) post resection. I believe, the most knowledge gained on this board is the information shared by our members.
I wish for the weather to change so that you can get outside for just a bit.
Best wishes,
MarionJanuary 17, 2010 at 11:26 pm #34764RandiSpectatorGerry:
I forgot to add that my doctor feels that I will be able to go back to work on 2/15. I am a computer programmer and my job is fairly sedentary. I may go back part time to start with. I do feel like I am gathering strength every day, I just wish it were nice outside so I could walk. I am looking into renting a treadmill for a few months.
The oncologist also said that I would be able to work during chemo as well. I am guessing that I will be taking some vacation days due to exhaustion from the chemo and to get the chemo.Marion:
Do you know which cancer centers treat a high volume of CC?January 17, 2010 at 11:07 pm #34763lainySpectatorHey, Gerry. Just wanted to add that what happened to Teddy was rare. His actual surgery was not that bad for all that was done. He was sitting up that night and walked late the next day! Unbelievable. If it had not been for his set backs that were no ones fault, he would have been on the golf course earlier. I think part of it was due to the fact that the first Whipple was aborted after 4 hours and 3 weeks later he had the “real deal.’ I may have missed something but why are they waiting so long to do your surgery?
I also want to add for anyone listening…..When I had my surgery Oct 1st, I asked for an epideral and that relieves you of any big discomfort for 24 hours or 48 hours, which is wonderful as you have a chance to garner a little strength. It does not hurt and well worth it.January 17, 2010 at 9:35 pm #34762hollandgMemberRandi
Thanks for providing a detailed account of your treatment and recovery on your journey back to good health – your really doing very well. I’ve benfited greatly from information/advice gained from this site and your account of the history of your progress will prove very helpful.Gerry
January 17, 2010 at 7:13 pm #34761marionsModeratorrandi….I can relate to that. We would like concrete answers to our questions. But, if you consult with those centers treating a highly volume of CC patients then I would consider that: majority rules. BTW, have you gathered all of your medical records? This includes, blood tests, physician’s reports, CT scans, etc. This will be necessary. Also, is there someone you trust who could take care of some of this for you? With all the information coming your way it might really help to enlist an advocate. You need to heal and gain back your strengths.
Best of all wishes,
MarionJanuary 17, 2010 at 2:24 pm #34760RandiSpectatorLainey: Sounds like Teddy had quite a time with his surgery! So sorry to hear that. But it also sounds like you both had great attitudes about it.
Marion: I am trying to gather information, but it is scarce. I am analytical by nature and it is really frustrating not to have anything concrete to base my decision on.
I am looking forward to hearing from others about their thoughts on prophylactic treatment and it’s impact on recurrence.
January 17, 2010 at 7:26 am #34759marionsModeratorRandi….I don’t believe that any studies have been conducted on CC patients prophylactic chemo or, radiation. I believe that the experts are still divided with their opinions. It seems that those patients who have had a resection without post treatment and then encountered a recurrence believe that a mistake might have been made. We have so seen patients on this board both, patients with post-treatments and those without showing recurrences. And, we have seen no recurrences in either group, also. Confusing? Sure is.
Ultimately it will be your choice as to whether to be treated or not based on the information gathered. And, it will be the RIGHT decision. I am with you. Life needs to resemble some normality again. Hang in there.
Best wishes,
MarionJanuary 17, 2010 at 2:43 am #34758lainySpectatorRandi, I am more familiar with Mayo in Rochester MN and MD Anderson in Houston. I know its a project but if you can Fax them your results they will give you an idea over the phone. We have quite a few of our “Family” in your NY area. I just know they will also chime in to help. Marion is also excellent at telling people of possible places to get in touch with. This is the weekend and sometimes we are not that busy on line but I bet by tomorrow night you get a bunch of responses. I am still in awe of your progress. It took Teddy about 6 months but then he had an aborted Whipple, then a double ecoli infection then the “real deal Whipple” at the age of 73. Then when we got home (we had been visiting our kids in Milwaukee) 3 months later, he developed a small hole at the resection and had to go in to rehab with nothing to eat or drink for a month. Just an IV & candy bag. The hole did heal on it’s own by starving it. They just didn’t want to do more surgery on him at that time. With all that, the healing took a little longer. Oh not to mention that when flying back to Phoenix from Milwaukee both tubes he had in his stomach….blew out on the plane. What a mess. He was telling my daughter when we finally arrived, “did ya see the movie Airplane?” We cracked up. Keep up your great attitude and good luck on getting a 2nd opinion.
January 16, 2010 at 11:07 pm #34757RandiSpectatorLainy,
I am not sure where to go for a second opinion. I would prefer not to travel since my energy level is so low. Do you know of any places that do second opinions by looking at records without physically seeing you?
-Randi-
January 16, 2010 at 8:09 pm #34756gavinModeratorHi Randi,
I found this video on Youtube regarding Cyberknife that may help with explaining what the treatment involves etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gH2zjTfojo
I hope it is of some use.
Best wishes
Gavin
January 16, 2010 at 6:47 pm #34755lainySpectatorHi Randi. Cyber Knife was originally for brain cancer only and slowly it has been introduced to more various types of cancer. The tumor must be under 7cm and there can only be a few tumors in the area. Teddy had to first have 25 days of radiation to shrink his tumor as it was 7cn and they shrunk it to 6cn.
The total treatment takes only 3 – 5 consecutive days and you are done. The only after effect Teddy had was some tiredness. It works for up to a year on the tumor. First it “kills” it then it slowly “burns” up and is gone. Its is an amazing form of Laser. A true Miracle.
Randi, you have done marvelous, another true Miracle. I just want to say if you have any questions at all in your mind..it is your right to seek another opinion. All doctors do not use the same protocol.
I am elated about your recovery so far. Keep up the splendid work!! -
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