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October 13, 2012 at 3:06 pm #65641notdoneyetSpectator
Dear Lainy, I do not know how or where to post a new topic and I’m hoping you will help me.
I have been reading the prior posts regarding liver flukes. We also brought this up to my sons Onc who said he was quite aware of them and this was not the case in my sons diagnosis. He did brush the idea off.
Both of my sons have traveled extensively through Asia, Thailand, etc. They have also spent a lot of time backpacking throughout South America. They eat with and like the locals. My 30 year old, health conscious, gym rat, anti drug son is so extensively covered in tumors chemo is our only option. That’s not what I’m writing about though. It appears all our Western Doctors brush off liver flukes. Is it possible on this site to start a page where people can say if they possibly could have been exposed? And how.
Where would that information go after being compiled? Also does anyone know how to test for this cancer before there are symptoms? My youngest son lived in India for six months while studying and is even more adventure oriented then my oldest who has this horrid disease. I am literarily in tears writing this with fear of losing both my children.October 13, 2012 at 10:27 am #65640marionsModeratorWillow…I would like to follow Pam and Lainy and welcome you to our site. Your sister is in good hands at Stanford – it is a NCI designated cancer center. http://www.cancer.gov/researchandfunding/extramural/cancercenters
We are in the process of identifying those centers actively involved in Cholangiocarcinoma research therefore; our list is incomplete and ever evolving.
Having said that I must admit that I still believe in obtaining second or more professional opinions from a center or physician treating a high volume of CC patients. If anything it will confirm the diagnoses and treatment options in place already.
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I so much understand her reluctance of coming to this site. My husband (lawyer and psychologist) had difficulties also – it frightened him. Therefore, like you and Pam and so many others I came here to learn and to understand and to share my thoughts. It helped me and that in turn helped him. Mostly I appreciate the fact that this is an open and uncensored forum for all touched by this disease.Your sister has a wonderful sister in you. Your support is invaluable to her.
Fingers are crossed for an awesome response to the current treatment. Please stay in touch. We are in this together.
Hugs,
MarionOctober 13, 2012 at 1:53 am #65639lainySpectatorWillow, you can Google “liver flukes” and read up on it, very interesting. It is a parasite found in certain fish in Asia and a lot of this fish contains this parasite. This fish (I forgot the name) is also not cooked properly which is another problem. My husband served in Korea and some others who have passed from our CC family served in Nam. This parasite adheres to the bile ducts and can live there 30 – 40 years undetected. Then it leaves and leaves behind CC. Because it cannot be detected we can’t know if one has it.
It sounds like your Sister is in good hands with an aggressive ONC. This is good. Willow, listen to your gut as it will not steer you wrong. If at any time you feel you do want another opinion DOCS are not going to say no. Stanford is a great Hospital and they discovered Cyber Knife which my husband had when his CC returned. Sending out big prayers for the chemo to shrink that monster and make yhour Sister operable.October 13, 2012 at 1:37 am #65638willowSpectatorI truly appreciate your response. We do have lots in common. I’ve been following your posts and Lauren’s story (saw your blog too and pics of your lovely family) lately but finally got the nerve to write. Now I know why you post instead of Lauren. I really can understand why she is afraid to join the discussion group/CC site yet there is so much in the way of support hope and great idea too. Yes, i feel like we have to be filters and only give info as it is asked of us. Thank you again, Pam
October 13, 2012 at 1:29 am #65637pamelaSpectatorHi Willow,
I wanted to welcome you to this site. Sorry you had to find us. My daughter, Lauren is the one with CC. Hers is also intrahepatic. She will not come on this site either and doesn’t want to hear the bad stuff, only the positive. That is her way of coping and I respect that. If she ever has a question, she knows I will answer truthfully. I read everything I can get my hands on, even if it is upsetting. I find the more I read what others go through makes me stronger and more prepared for what Lauren may have to face, although it is so heartbreaking at times. I wish everyone could get better and live wonderful lives. I think it is awesome that you are taking such an active role to help your sister. I wish you both all the best.
Love, -Pam
October 13, 2012 at 1:10 am #65636willowSpectatorThank you. I’ve wondered about the liver fluke/sushi connection myself. Do they test for that when you are diagnosed with CC and have no other risk factors? Maybe it’s a moot point but you’d think they could reduce recurrences if so.
The hepatobilary surgeon has great experience and definitely wants to do everything possible to make it to resection. He said it technically could be done, but he preferred to do chemo first to kill potential seed cells on “good” side of liver and to shrink main tumor out of left side of blood vessel branch (it’s mainly on right side). I feel my sister is so close to being operable if this chemo does the trick.October 13, 2012 at 12:39 am #65635lainySpectatorDear Willow,welcome to our remarkable family but sorry you had to find us. You are a HERO to step up for your Sister as knowledge is one of our most important tools for fighting CC. I too wonder all the time why so many younger people are getting this Cancer. My own thoughts are that it may be environmental and I have thoughts as well about the younger generation and its fondness for Sushi, since some raw fish has parasites called liver flukes and it is very common in Asia but how do we know some of this is not here? For treatment we do recommend large Hospitals who have had more experience treating CC. We are also big believers in 2nd and 3rd opinions. I am sure it is very hard for some to accept their diagnosis and feel our Board may not be for them however, we do have Miracle stories as well. You have come to the right place and please keep us updated on your Sister as we truly care.
October 12, 2012 at 11:49 pm #65634RandiSpectatorWelcome to the site Willow and sorry you had reason to find it.
I am sure others can answer some of your questions, but I wanted to make sure I said hello.I was diagnosed with ECC December of 2009 and had a whipple and 6 months of adjuvant Chemo (Gemzar). I have had some scares but I have been cancer free since my surgery. I just went to 6 month scans (before had scans every 3 months) and my next one is in December.
I hope for the best for your sister.
Take care,
-Randi-October 12, 2012 at 11:43 pm #7484willowSpectatorFinally introducing myself as the sister of one diagnosed end of July with CC just two weeks before her 50th birthday. She has a young child and is naturally devastated at the thought of not being around to raise him. She is too afraid to even seek support on this site for fear of being exposed to really bad, tragic situations and scary information. Seems a natural coping mechanism. I, on the other hand cannot get enough information so we can arm ourselves with ideas and options, even for little things like managing side effects. I have noticed lots of new members who are relatively young and it makes me wonder what is causing this disease. Her symptom was pain mainly at night in upper right abdomen for 3 days. no jaundice. My sis has no known risk factors, lived a clean lifestyle and has enjoyed good health. She has intahepatic tumor with portal vein s d hepatic artery involvement but no lymph node involvement. Inoperable at moment but surgeon has not ruled out resection if tumor can shrink even a little away from blood vessel branch. She started Gem/Cis and has had to have the crazy expensive Neulasta (i think thats he name) shots due to low WBC counts since the first tx. They also changed the chemo to every other week instead of weekly. She seems to be getting excellent care from at Stanford in Palo Alto, though this is not listed as one of your major cancer centers (??)
Several other newly diagnosed women who posted have spurred me to finally seek help and contribute any way I can since the stories are so similar. Thanks for listening and I hope her story can help others not feel alone. Willow -
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