Diagnosed with unresectable bile duct cancer
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September 9, 2014 at 8:52 pm #84142middlesister1Moderator
Reacher,
When Mom was diagnosed last October, we were also told that most survive only about a year and chemo extends life only about 3 months on average. I am very thankful that she didn’t decide to not do the chemo becuase if it was only going to give her a few more months.
Her 3 rounds of chemo shrunk the tumor about 25%. Then she had SIRT (radioactive seeds) in Feb. The radiation also shrunk the tumor more and killed many of the cells. She was tired for 4 weeks after the radiation, but since then she has been living and feeling fine (3 vacations since March). Her tumor is still stable, but when it starts to grow, we’ll go back on the chemo. As others have indicated, many more people are living longer and better lives than would be indicated by the older statistics.
The chemo was not only to either keep the tumor stable (or hopefully shrink it), but to give a treatment that would kill cancer cells that may be present in areas beyond the tumor.
Treatments like radiation target the tumors directly.
The only “cure” I am aware of is when they are able to do a resection and get clean margins. We had hoped for this, but when they went in to do the surgery, location made it not possible. So, even if it can’t be cured, goal is to treat as needed and approach as having a chronic condition.
On the main Cholangiocarcinoma Org homepage, under the “Cholangiocarcinoma” heading, they have a section on treatment options.
And- welcome Debbielax! I am impressed how quickly you were able to reach out and get the second opinions. Returning to work is wonderful.
Good luck to you both.
Catherine
September 9, 2014 at 8:29 pm #84141reacherMemberThank you for your encouragement.
What are the other new options coming from the cc foundation?September 9, 2014 at 5:47 pm #84140debnorcalModeratorHi Reacher,
I am also new(ish) to this forum. I have been absorbing as much information as possible but have not yet posted an introduction. In reading your description of your husband’s condition, I see many similarities and wanted to share our experience in the hopes that it may offer you and your husband some encouragement. My husband is also young and otherwise healthy. First symptoms appeared 2/17/14. Although in a different location than your husband’s, he has unresectable intra and extra hepatic CC. Like you, we were horrified by the prognosis statistics doctors gave and we read on line. We put all that aside though, and are focussing on the options that are available. We also choose to remain positive and that has helped.
The first thing we did was to obtain second opinions from large medical centers that have much experience in biliary cancers. We received remote opinions from Cedar’s Sinai Liver Center in L.A. and John’s Hopkins. They both concurred that the tumor is currently unresectable and they both encouraged my husband to seek treatment that might reduce the tumor to a size that makes it eligible for resection. We then had an on site second opinion with UCSF Medical Center. We chose to work with them for many reasons, including their pioneering work into research on CC. Dr. Kelley at UCSF also concurred, but advised that we have many options, recommending we start with Gem/Cis, which my husband started in June. He tolerates it pretty well. After three cycles, the new scan indicated the tumor is stable and the Gem/Cis is working. He is continuing this treatment to maximize the benefit of it. While we are being realistic, we are also thankful that the chemo is working and that my husband is feeling well. He actually returned to work in early August! We hadn’t expected that he would be well enough to do that. He has already exceeded the low end of the survival statistics and expects to continue to pass these time frames. We take each day as it comes and do what we can to improve his outcome. Research and clinical trials are rapidly evolving thanks in large part to the CC Foundation and the Bili Project Foundation’s campaigns to raise awareness and fund research into this rare type of cancer. Today there are more effective treatments than there were five years ago. Each day brings us closer to better treatment options. My best advice is to try to stay positive, research your options and deal with each step as best as you can. Prayers to you and your husband.
September 9, 2014 at 4:45 pm #84139reacherMemberJust an update on my incredible 61 year old husband diagnosed with advanced unresectable CC stage 4 bile duct cancer originating in the duct and wrapping partly around the SMA artery and left portal vein of the kidney.
He is beginning his fourth cycle of palliative intent chemo using gemcitabine and cisplatin.
The side effects of this systemic treatment are fatigue, diaherrea, gas, hair thinning and some minimal pain.
We were shocked by the oncologist’s prognosis of his life in terms of months…6–11 months!!!
This was told to us without looking at his CT scan which is due this September.
He has not had a CT scan since his laparotomy in early June with a double gastric bypass and tumours being marked for possible radiation.
We were also told that since his platelets were extremely low cisplatin would be removed from his treatment. Apparently cisplatin affects platelets the most.
Isn’t cisplatin the key ingredient to shrink the tumour?
If his platelets reached 75 he could have 80% gemcitabine.
Needless to say we felt shocked, horrified and in disbelief.
We believe in the power of prayer!
In less than 5 days his platelets rebounded from 20- 118.
He got both IV bags of gemcitabine and cisplatin in chemotherapy yesterday.
His tumour marker went from 1.2 to 0.9We are not giving up but are determined to fight this cancer!
What would be the best most realistic news from the CT scan?
What can cure CC?
What is the chemo intended to do?
What would radiation hope to achieve?
Can the bile duct in the pancreas be removed surgically?
Are there other drugs out there being used to target CC?
If so, what are they?
Please excuse my spelling…flourisil IV, kepcetabine (oral), taxane?
Please help me think of other questions to ask the Drs from your experiences.I also am having problems navigating ths forum.
If you have words of wisdom or encouragement please send it to me…Reacher.
We believe in the power of God through prayer.
Need to be strong and remain hopeful.August 8, 2014 at 5:43 am #84138gavinModeratorReacher,
I hated statistics at uni and I hate them even more now!! My advice would be to ignore them and just don’t read them! Much has changed for the better since many of these stats were collected and there is much more happening now that is very positive. And remember, politicians like stats as they can be used to prove or disprove anything, ignore them!!
My best to you and your husband,
Gavin
August 8, 2014 at 1:25 am #84137reacherMemberThank you for your reassurance, caring statements and prayers!
August 8, 2014 at 12:27 am #84136mbachiniModeratorReacher,
All the information on the web can be so scary and overwhelming. Each person is different and I don’t believe for a second that we have an expiration date stamped on our feet. In the past almost five years that I have been fighting this disease I have never once asked “How long?” I have never wanted to know….because I feel strongly that none of us know how long. Each day is precious and a gift. I know it brings sadness and that is normal…nobody plans for this. You will find much support here…..prayers for you and your husband.
MelindaAugust 7, 2014 at 7:53 pm #84135marionsModeratorReacher………Not sure what studies you are referring too, but please remember that treatments and ensuing life expectancy continues to bring positive changes to this disease. I prefer to look at the upper curve of the statistical date.
Hugs,
MarionAugust 7, 2014 at 6:23 pm #84134reacherMemberI realize every CCA case is unique and everyone responds differently to treatments, however, I am overwhelmed with sadness regarding life expectancy after googling information.
At 57 years of age I was dreaming of quite a different retirement in the future with my husband, children and hope of grandchildren.
I remain positive that my spouse will be on the outside edge of the bell curve and can live for many years.August 7, 2014 at 5:56 am #84133gavinModeratorIndeed it is Reacher, so keep coming back!!
Best wishes,
Gavin
August 7, 2014 at 4:48 am #84132marionsModeratorWe are happy to have you on board.
Hugs,
MarionAugust 6, 2014 at 6:13 am #84131reacherMemberThank you Marion and Gavin.
It is great to be connected!!August 6, 2014 at 5:56 am #84130gavinModeratorHi Reacher,
Welcome to the site. Sorry that you had to find us all here but glad that you’ve joined as you’re in the best place for support and help and you’ll get loads of that here from everyone. Sorry to hear what your husband is going through, but it sounds like he is getting some good treatment and is in good hands as well. Please keep coming back here and let us kno how everything goes. We are here for you and we care.
My best wishes to you and your husband,
Gavin
August 6, 2014 at 5:20 am #84129marionsModeratorReacher…..welcome to our site. So sorry to hear of all the difficulties your husband has encountered. Please keep us posted on all further developments and remember, we are in this together, all the way.
Hugs,
MarionAugust 6, 2014 at 4:43 am #84128reacherMemberWe have an outstanding Hipatabilry surgeon named Dr. A. Buczkowski out of Vancouver General. We feel blessed to be under his care.
Also, the BC Cancer Agency is outstanding.
I appreciate your caring words and support regarding CC. -
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