hospice care for Joe
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December 11, 2008 at 9:28 pm #24105tiapattyMember
Mary Anne,
The grace and dignity that Joe and all of you have demonstrated is very inspiring, it is hard to know how to die and how to let someone die but your family is a shining example. You are all in my thoughts and prayers.
Patty
December 11, 2008 at 8:43 pm #24104lainySpectatorMary Anne, what great love and strength you have given to Joe. We pray that he can end his journey painlessly as our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family!
December 11, 2008 at 8:30 pm #24103maryanne80SpectatorWell, here it is alomost a week later and we are still on the journey. Joe hasn’t eaten for 9 days now. he only drinks about two glasses of fluid a day. The hospice nurse said he could go two weeks but his output is really dropping. The toxin levels must be increasing becasue the Ativan dose isn’t holding him well so I just called hospice again to up the dose. I promised to keep him comfortable. he cannot even turn in bed by himself now so I have to have help. I have great neighbors and kids so so far I think I can keep him at home. That was his wish and mine too. My back is better now that he has a catheter and i don’thave so many changes. I keep praying for God’s timing to separate the funeral from the wedding but we are only 16 days from the wedding now. Karen is back in Phoenix with Mark but will be back the 23rd for Christmas (and the wedding the 27th)or before if necessary. I blog every day but only get to this site about once a weekl Hard to keep up but thanks for bieng here when I need you. God Bless. Mary Anne
December 5, 2008 at 5:43 pm #24102cherbourgSpectatorMary Anne,
I’m following your blog everyday and was so touched by the relationship your soon to be married daughter has with her Dad. Our wedding is on the 20th and I’m praying my Mom is going to be able to be there. She so far is hanging in there but I’m hearing some stress in my Dad’s voice concerning her general status.
I ( and my coworkers here in the lab) stood in tears and read about Joe giving her away.
I’ll keep you and yours in my prayers. Please do the same for us as my soon to be son-in-law will deploy again to Iraq in mid-January.
Stay strong and give Joe and yourself a big hug!
Pam
December 5, 2008 at 4:44 pm #24101maryanne80SpectatorI can’t believe Joe has been in hospice almost a month now. The nurse thought he would be gone by Thanksgiving but here we are. He now has a catheter which he wasn’t crazy about but my back was giving me trouble and I have already had back surgery 8 years ago and a herniation last year so I asked him to do it for me. Our kids have all gone home now and although we have two in town they both work so will just be stopping by. I also got a hoyer lift so I can move him up in bed. I am very thankful for my nursing training or I don’t know if I could manage this at home. He is sleeping most of the time and when he is awake he has a very difficult time getting his words to day what he means. He is on Ativan about 4 times a day and oral morphine (Roxanal) about twice a day. I have been expremely pleased with hospice and their prompt response to anything I need.
we are now 3 weeks from our daughter’s wedding. The ceremony will be at the house with just family. We never thought Joe would make it this far but my hope is that his death and the wedding don’t happen on top of each other. Ony God knows the timing and we trust in him to work it out in the best way. Our daughter who is getting married got laid off while she was in here (she was in the housing field) so she is back in Phoenix looking for a job. I have moved the computer in to the bedroom so I can catch up on cc and still be with Joe. Thanks for your continued thoughts and support. Mary AnneNovember 25, 2008 at 2:17 am #24100colleenSpectatorMary Anne – I continue to keep you and your family in my thoughts. I hope Joe remains pain free.
ColleenNovember 22, 2008 at 2:02 am #24099marionsModeratorMary Anne….I am sending tons of love to Joe, you, and your entire family.
Hugs
MarionNovember 22, 2008 at 1:57 am #24098janMemberMaryanne –
Thanks for checking back with us. It really helps us to know what you are going through, just as it is an opportunity for you to vent. Joe is so lucky to have his loving family around him. Not only do you support each other, it sounds like you are keeping busy to help the time pass meaningfully.
Take care.
Jan
November 21, 2008 at 2:55 pm #24097maryanne80SpectatorIt has been almost a week since I posted on this site but I have been making daily entries on the blog. Our 4 kids are here with me all the time now. The two in town ones leave to go to work for awhile and then come back. The hospice nurse told us a few days ago that she didn’t think he would live a week. He is confused sometimes because of all the jaundice and toxins in his body and he sleeps most of the time. He seems to have an awake period in the evening and we take advantage of that and all gather on the bed and sing worship songs and old John Denver songs that he used to play on the guitar. Last night he even watched a little football with Michael. He is still comfortable with a little ativan once or twice a day and some liquid morphine once a day. He is starting to itch a little from the jaundice and that would be the worst thing for him. He got a bad sunburn when he was young and the itching almost drove hime crazy. I will ask the hospice nurse for something for it today. Right now it is just minor and intermittent. Thank you all for your wonderful comments and words of compassion.
If you want to keep up with our daily journal it is on the blog. I have found that to be a wonderful way to chronicle our journey so if some of you haven’t tired it, you might find it useful to keep track of how things were along the way. It also helps to have kids who ar computer savy. I have to say I haven’t had time to read the site in the last two weeks.
With all the kids here they are constantly on the computer doing work related stuff or just trying to keep in touch with their friends. Yesterday they cleaned out my utility room and three cupboards in our kitchen. Do you know how much stuff you can accumulate in 20 years and you never throw anything out? I have a huge pile for good will and now I can find the things I use all the time. Our bedroom is on the main floor so we take turns going in and sitting with Joe. He really doesn’t want a lot of talk at this time except for the evening time.
It sure seems like I’m ramblin but I have a few minutes alone so I wanted to touch base. Thanks for being here whenever I need you. Mary AnneNovember 14, 2008 at 1:47 am #24096janMemberMary Anne,
I know a little of what you and Joe are going through. My dad entered hospice care in a nursing home a few weeks ago, and I can only imagine how stressful it must be as the caretaker in your home. You are right when you say things are calmer without the running back and forth to appointments, tests and treatments. Although my dad is very sick, he seemed much more ill and agitated when he was treating, especially the chemo which sucked the life out of him. You and Joe are blessed to have a lot of support around you to get you through this, and the hospice care workers are so very helpful and caring.
Please make a point to take some time for yourself – no easy task, I know. Lord knows, you deserve it.
You’ve found the right place to share, any time.
Jan
November 12, 2008 at 12:38 am #24095darlaSpectatorMary Anne,
I know that you are not at the point where I am now, as my husband Jim passed away Sept. 2, 2008. However, I just wanted to let you know that I too am still waking in the middle of the night unable to sleep. I also write in my journal & go on the computer. Some times I just stay up as it is hard to get back to sleep & if I do it seems it is almost time to get up again! I think the fact that the nights are so long right now does not help, along with the fact that it is so empty feeling here now & it is hard to adjust to the fact that I am alone. You are right, you just can’t turn off your thoughts. Your mind just keeps on going! I am glad that things seem more peaceful for you now. Continue to cherish the time you have together. Jim’s passing came so quickly we did not have that time & I envy those of you that do. I hope only for the best for you & Joe in the days to come. You will both be in my thoughts & prayers.
Darla
November 12, 2008 at 12:37 am #24094marionsModeratorMary Anne….Well put by the Hospice nurse…Joe is the boss. I had to remind myself of this while tending to my husband. Also, sleep deprivation seems to go hand in hand with being a caretaker and it certainly happened to me, also. It seemed as if my mind did not want to rest and was working overtime. If it is not possible for you to catch a small nap during the day could you find 15 minutes here or there in order to close your eyes and relax. It is nothing like a good night’s sleep however, it does help to keep the energy going. I am so happy for Hospice to be given relief to Joe and to you. I am thinking of you and am sending tons of hugs.
MarionNovember 12, 2008 at 12:09 am #24093maryanne80SpectatorHi Friends,
Well, we are certasinly impressed with ospice. The nurse came yesterday and covered all aspects of care and then got orders for things we “might” need so we re ready. we now have oxygen in the house “in case”, ativan to help him sleep, a lift chair so he can get in and out by hiself which helps his dignity and today he got a massage ofhis legs to help with the fluid buildup. I think he lilkes the attention. The one thing the hospice nurse said that I thought was really important was that he is the boss. He can eat what he wants or not, not take his Lasix if that was OK with the doctor (which is was). She explained the consequences to be sure Joe understood. I went to exercise for the first time in three weeks and that felt good. I know I have to do things for myself. I try to do them in the morning while Joe is still sleeping. Anyone else waking in the middle of the night and not being able to sleep? I am taking a sleeping pill but lately I have just been getting up and journaling and getting on the computer for a few hours and then go back to bed. It is hard to stop your mind from going. So far there is not a lot of physical care for Joe but I try to spend as much time with him as I can while we are still together. I do find it more peaceful being in hospice for some reason. We had too much company yesterday and today was a break. Joe slept most of the afternoon after not getting up til noon but that is OK. Again, thanks for being here to listen and advise. It has been such a big help. I really like this hospice section. We really ae in a different phase than those just diagnosed. Mary AnneNovember 11, 2008 at 2:40 pm #24092lisaSpectatorHi Mary Anne,
May God give you and Joe strength and faith in these times.
God bless you,
LisaNovember 11, 2008 at 12:28 am #24091carol58SpectatorOh Mary Anne, you always have our support and love. I admire you and Joe so much. I’m so glad Sunday was a better day for all of you. Charlie’s 18 months since diagnosis. It really is never long enough. What you said is perfect about the quality of life. I’m so thankful your relationships have been strengthened as we feel ours have also. It teaches you how to live fully in the present moment, doesn’t it? May God encircle you and Joe and all your family and give you peace and comfort.
Carol
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