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  • #69367
    hercules
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    I believe it was 1b at time of resection,, Tumor was small (2cm.) when discovered by ultrasound of my gal bladder, pathology found cancer in left lobe of liver and in left hepatic duct no lymph involvement. portions of bile duct which were removed showed positive for PSC . My surgeon was incredibly good and I healed well. This surgery is complex with multiple individual difficulties. Most cases aren’t found so early. I was, and continue to be, a very fortunate man. I hope you can be the same, Pat

    #69366
    alikemal
    Spectator

    thank you very much for sharing. what was your stage and age when you had a resection surgery.

    #69365
    hercules
    Moderator

    No, Alikemal, I have not had chemo, I had a resection surgery (70% of liver removed) gal bladder and partial duct resection . At the time my oncologist recommended that I forgo chemotherapy . He said there was no effective chemo for my cancer. I take an anti inflammitory drug that seems to open up my bile duct and has kept things working for a few years now. No stent, no further treatments whatsoever since Jan. of 06′ . I have said it is, perhaps, the best outcome one could ask for. My digestion and functionality were perfect for maybe 8 or 9 years. I have had some bilary restriction issues that for now have been kept in check with the Meloxicam. Take care, Pat

    #69364
    alikemal
    Spectator

    hello all
    hercules do you get chemo ? how was is it ?

    marions what are targeted drugs ?

    #69362
    hercules
    Moderator

    Ubri, I understand that many people are more fearful of chemo than the cancer itself. I have gone to local cancer support groups and sat with people that are receiving chemo treatments at the time and some get relief from symptoms of the cancer. Everyone is different and every case is unique in some way but similarities are many. Perhaps attending a local cancer support group would give you the opportunity to talk with people getting treatments and tell you first hand the good and bad. There are herbal products that claim to help the body fight cancer, but once a tumor has formed it becomes a more difficult battle. I hope You find a treatment soon, Do what you must do, surgery is not easy either but one must do whatever it takes to stop or slow this cancer. I wish you the best, Pat

    #69361
    marions
    Moderator

    positivity….. Education is a powerful tool. It helps us understand and based on that understanding we are in a position of making the best choice possible.

    Choosing a center treating a high volume of cholangiocarcinoma/bile duct cancer is key to obtaining a second, professional opinion. USC in Southern California has a robust hepatobiliary department and the physicians: Dr. Lenz and Dr. Dr. El-Khoueiry are two oncologists “very” familiar with this cancer.

    It is unlikely for you Mom to be offered chemotherapy or perhaps any other targeted drugs unless her bilirubin is at 2, hence I am hoping for the stent to do the job it is meant to do.

    I much agree with your complaint about the failed stent procedure. We know that stents can migrate and can cause problems including cholangitis, ulceration, bleeding, and perforation, and as you mentioned physician errors have horrible consequences. So sorry.

    You are a good daughter by advocating strongly for your Mom in the way you do. I hope your Mom is feeling significantly better and you are able to connect with a specialist real soon.

    Hugs
    Marion

    #69360
    positivity
    Spectator

    Hi Marions,
    Thanks for your response. My mom recently was diagnosed and I am scheduling appointments with Oncologists. She only saw the GI doctors for the MRCP, ERCP procedures and a diagnosis based on what they saw from scans. They diagnosed the same before the pathology reports. I was extremely displeased with the first GI doctor who did the ERCP, and she did not do a thorough job which another doctor had to redo the ERCP. My mom also experienced complications from the first ERCP which made her more sick. It’s extremely important that people choose a very experienced GI doctor for an ERCP, this takes more knowledge, skills, and tools than your basic procedure.
    I am looking into City of Hope , UCLA, and does anyone know about Cedar Sinai? I am glad to hear that there is better treatment today. I am in the beginning stages of looking for treatments since my mom is definitely not a candidate for surgery, liver transplant, or chemo. That’s a good thing! I feel those will make her worse and not worth it. This is due to her age and anemia.

    Thank you!

    #69359
    marions
    Moderator

    Ubri…..I am trying to understand, does your Mom have cholangiocarcinoma and you too have been diagnosed with this cancer?

    Hugs,
    Marion

    #69358
    ubri
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    Ubri wrote:
    My Ma has it and is bedridden at home as she does not want to go to a home or palative care.She sleeps.Now I have been diagnosed with bile duct cancer and am 58.. For 3 years I’ve been going to MRI,ct scans and even 2
    Liver biopsy…I am going to try the apricot kernalls instead of chemo.What do you people think about that.Would you do the chemo..Help
    #69357
    ubri
    Member

    My Ma has it and is bedridden at home as she does not want to go to a home or palative care.She sleeps.Now I have been diagnosed with bile duct cancer and am 58.. For 3 years I’ve been going to MRI,ct scans and even 2
    Liver biopsy…I am going to try the almonds instead of chemo.What do you people think about that.Would you do the chemo..Help

    #69356
    lainy
    Spectator

    Dear Positivity, where is your Mom being treated and is the Doctor an Oncologist VERY experienced with CC? CC is still so new that many in the medical profession have not even heard of it. The key is to be with an experienced Oncologist. We have come a long way since my husband had CC over 10 years ago. There is research being done and new trials coming along all the time. There is no reason for your Mom to not be getting good treatments. I think you mentioned before that she is seeing a GI or a GP and she really needs an Oncologist. Best wishes to you and your Mom.

    #69355
    positivity
    Spectator

    That is incredible! Wonderful for your recovery!
    I never imagined to be here or learning about this condition. I didn’t even know anything about bile ducts,not a part of the body you commonly know about. Until my 74 year old mom , out of nowhere was diagnosed with Klatskin tumor, adenocarcinoma. I still want another pathologist to look at tissue sample, although two GI doctors diagnosed it as this before the biopsies. It was determined from the “bad location” which they love to emphasize. It is at both left and right hepatic ducts at the common duct, and before biopsy said she is not candidate for surgery. Even better, I would not want her to go through the torture of surgery as she is already weak from a current anemia. The liver mass was found during an MRI to look for the source of anemia, and instead this was eventually found and finalized through ERCP. The GI doctor also said she is no candidate for chemo, which is also good since she is not strong to handle chemo. This is tough, but there must be some treatment which boosts the immune system, as I think this is what needs to strengthened, and doctors need to look at patients as individuals and not use the same treatments for everyone.
    I can’t believe there is no research or studies dedicated to this cancer compared to other cancers. I feel there is not enough advancement and know that oncologists make most money from chemo treatments. I disliked the GI doctors for being extremely negative, and basically didn’t do anything ,but give a diagnosis. Once GI doctor didn’t even have the decency to call and report to us the diagnosis of Klatskins. The only way I found is by getting the pathology report by my own effort, and no doctor involvement.

    Again, it’s incredible since I am in the beginning stages, to hear success stories.

    #69338
    lainy
    Spectator

    OK CC Family, I HAVE A GOOD ONE THAT AFTER 8 YEARS we still double over with laughter. My Teddy “relocated ” 5 1/2 years ago. He was a true Sicilian and after he was DX he started wearing his CC bracelet. He could NEVER pronounce Cholangio. We had company from Milwaukee and went to our favorite Italian restaurant. Rocky (yes Rocky) asked Teddy what was on his bracelet. Teddy says, “Oh that’s my Cancer”. Rocky says, “No I meant what does it say?” Teddy answers, ” Angelo Carcinoma”. Leave it to my Teddy to make a Sicilian our of his Cancer!! I thought I would choke trying not to laugh at the time. And, YES, HUMOR is the best way to get through bad times or any time.

    Our humor at CC was during his DX. He was very jaundice and I looked at the ONC and Teddy and I said, “You know I don’t like you in yellow!” That time they cracked up.

    #69340
    mvpratt
    Spectator

    Loraine So glad to provide a laugh because we certainly need them right. ha ha I know that I tend to do as much laughing as I can… I think it is good for our souls and provides some levity to our so serious lives.

    I look forward to hearing others stories so I too can have a good laugh and celebrate how we all are surviving this cancer one day at a time :)

    Michelle

    #69339
    lorrainedavis
    Spectator

    sitting in chemo session 5 right now, love all these stories, they help so much. Michelle you made me laugh, thank you!

    Lorraine

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