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Dear Marion,
I am so sorry for your loss. Your family has been through so much with this cancer and you certainly do have a lot of information to share with others about this terrible disease. I hope you do continue share it and I wish you much success in your mission to do so.
To be married to the man of your dreams is a wonderful gift, and I am sure your memories of him will sustain you. I know the love of your family will see you through this as it has for us in the recent loss of our mother with this disease.
My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family.
With deep sympathy,
BerniebernieSpectatorJoyce, Carolann, & Jeff:
Thank you all for your heartfelt posts. Though Mom is missed more each day by all of us, she had a beautiful funeral with a wonderful message of hope from the Pastor. March 3rd brought spring-like temperatures with a sunny day. In fact, the day she died and the day of her funeral were the 2 nicest days of the year, which I consider a major blessing considering all the ice and snow we’ve had. Her struggle is over and mine has just begun. I know with God’s grace and people like you who surround me with hope and understanding, that I will be able to move forward without my mother with a few less tears one day at a time.I’m am forever grateful for this site and people like you!!
Thank you, again!
bernieSpectatorDear Jaunita,
I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing Dan’s story. In spite of the disease, it is a beautiful story of faith, determination, love, hope, acceptance, and the beginnings of a brighter future. All the beautiful elements in life! I know Dan is so pleased and proud of his family. If you don’t mind me sharing, the story of Job gives me a lot of comfort. At the end of Jobs suffering, God rewarded him with double everything he had before his test of faith except God did not give him 14 children. He gave him 7 more children because the 7 children that died still belonged to Job–he did no lose them. I don’t know about you, but I find comfort in that story of faith knowing that we are still a family no matter where we are.
You had a wonderful husband and Dan’s journey in passing is similar to my mother’s death on Feb 28th. She too was not afraid to die and said many times “If God wants me here He’ll find a way, but if it’s my time, it’s my time.” She was content and never complained. She would miss us, but she was not afraid to die. Like you, we are still numb and still can’t believe she is gone. It’s hard to distinguish all the grief. I grieve for myself, my sisters, and my father’s loneliness. It breaks my heart that Dad is lost in his new position in life. I am sure your children feel the sorrow of what you are going through, too. It’s overwhelming. I hope they provide comfort for you at the moments when you need it most. Any family that can get through the years of cancer and it’s outcome like yours has can get through the days ahead knowing their loved one no longer has to go to battle with it anymore.
I’m sure your Dan’s traits are in your children as some of my mother’s traits are in us. Hopefully, his traits in them will help you feel he is not so far away. My father says, “I just have to keep busy” and he does. I admire his strength to push on and not hold up in the dark. His strength will keep Mom’s memories alive for all of us as we pull together like your family is doing to get through the void and sadness that comes with this.
All I can say is that you are dealing with your loss the same way we all are and it’s normal. Some days are filled with anger and some with tears. My mother always told me “you’re supposed to cry at a birth and rejoice at a death.” It’s hard to do that though isn’t it? God willing, I hope I have the strength of my mother and your husband when my time comes. If nothing else, they make us want to be better people don’t they?
I hope you can find the blessings in your situation where you can. For me, I am grateful that Mom did not die suddenly or alone. For what it was, her final days were peaceful and we were able to say our farewells as your family was able to do. What an honorary send off for a wonderful husband and father! No one can take those memories of Dan away.
Juanita, please know that I share in your sorrow the loss of a loved one so near and dear to our heart. This is a most difficult time in our life. I will be lifting your name up in prayer for God’s comfort and strength to help you and your family get through the days ahead. I am truly sorry.
God Bless You!
bernieSpectatorDear Jaunita,
I am so sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing Dan’s story. In spite of the disease, it is a beautiful story of faith, determination, love, hope, acceptance, and the beginnings of a brighter future. All the beautiful elements in life! I know Dan is so pleased and proud of his family. If you don’t mind me sharing, the story of Job gives me a lot of comfort. At the end of Jobs suffering, God rewarded him with double everything he had before his test of faith except God did not give him 14 children. He gave him 7 more children because the 7 children that died still belonged to Job–he did no lose them. I don’t know about you, but I find comfort in that story of faith knowing that we are still a family no matter where we are.
You had a wonderful husband and Dan’s journey in passing is similar to my mother’s death on Feb 28th. She too was not afraid to die and said many times “If God wants me here He’ll find a way, but if it’s my time, it’s my time.” She was content and never complained. She would miss us, but she was not afraid to die. Like you, we are still numb and still can’t believe she is gone. It’s hard to distinguish all the grief. I grieve for myself, my sisters, and my father’s loneliness. It breaks my heart that Dad is lost in his new position in life. I am sure your children feel the sorrow of what you are going through, too. It’s overwhelming. I hope they provide comfort for you at the moments when you need it most. Any family that can get through the years of cancer and it’s outcome like yours has can get through the days ahead knowing their loved one no longer has to go to battle with it anymore.
I’m sure your Dan’s traits are in your children as some of my mother’s traits are in us. Hopefully, his traits in them will help you feel he is not so far away. My father says, “I just have to keep busy” and he does. I admire his strength to push on and not hold up in the dark. His strength will keep Mom’s memories alive for all of us as we pull together like your family is doing to get through the void and sadness that comes with this.
All I can say is that you are dealing with your loss the same way we all are and it’s normal. Some days are filled with anger and some with tears. My mother always told me “you’re supposed to cry at a birth and rejoice at a death.” It’s hard to do that though isn’t it? God willing, I hope I have the strength of my mother and your husband when my time comes. If nothing else, they make us want to be better people don’t they?
I hope you can find the blessings in your situation where you can. For me, I am grateful that Mom did not die suddenly or alone. For what it was, her final days were peaceful and we were able to say our farewells as your family was able to do. What an honorary send off for a wonderful husband and father! No one can take those memories of Dan away.
Juanita, please know that I share in your sorrow the loss of a loved one so near and dear to our heart. This is a most difficult time in our life. I will be lifting your name up in prayer for God’s comfort and strength to help you and your family get through the days ahead. I am truly sorry.
God Bless You!
bernieSpectatorThank you for your post, Bob. I think it’s too late for Mom to try this though I sure wish she could have had the opportunity as this combination has worked so well for you! I hope you have continued success with your treatments and wish you all the best in your fight! Thank you very much for sharing this with me.
Joyce, I think of you and your mother often! I am so confused right now, I’m not sure I know what to think anymore.
The 2nd cycle of 48-hour infusion of 5FU really took my mother down. That was Tuesday, Feb 6th. Since then, the decline in my mother’s health has been so severe that like Joyce (jmoneypenny), I feel the chemo actually made her cancer worse, not better. Her fluid intake was low and I called the doctor that was on call Sunday to see if there was anything we could do since my mother kept saying, “I think I need to go to the hospital.” He said there was nothing a hospital could do that we couldn’t do at home ourselves and the only thing he suggested was for her to come to the office in the morning and they would hydrate her–“maybe that will provide some comfort.” My mother was not in traveling shape, so we had nursing hydrate her from the 12th to the 14th but it did not help much and even the nurse made the comment “hydration will not help you feel better.” I guess that’s subjective, but it appears it has only bloated her.
On Feb 15th, Mom told Dad that she no longer wanted to take chemo and to cancel the next appointment. My father had a lot of hope for chemo and was disappointed, but honored her decision. I am glad she stopped the chemo as I know in my heart that it was making her worse. When Dad called the oncologist he said that “in my experience with this stage of cholangiocarcinoma, chemo does not help much anyway.” He told us to call Hospice. He said that based on her recent LFTs (liver function tests), she has about 2 weeks to live and the original prognosis of 6 months is not the case now.
Hospice came on Saturday to discuss what they have to offer. Hospice had the impression that Mom has cancer in the lungs. This was “new news to us.” I called the oncologist’s office and the doctor said that their records indicated only cancer in the liver and possible T8-9 but not anywhere else. He said maybe hospice nurse heard crackling or sounds in her lungs that made them suspect she had cancer in her lungs, but no one has listened to her lungs, yet. The hospice social worker is the only person who has visited and her records reported lung cancer as well as the liver, which she said she got from the oncologist’s office “or you told us that.” I told her I had no reason to tell her my mother had lung cancer because it has never been mentioned to us! I can’t believe PEOPLE! How frustrating it is that all these laws concerning access to your medical records and making sure you list the people you want to allow access to get them for the protection of the patient and yet, I’ve requested and my father has requested Mom’s medical documents at least 4 times between both of us and we still don’t have them! It is as if “they” hold a secret and are guarding them at Fort Knox!! I guess it is not important enough to them in the whole scheme of things as she’s dying.
I needed to know that we have done all we can for her, so I asked the oncologist if she could have had a liver transplant and he said it would have to be done today and even if she made it through the surgery, the microscopic cells left behind would most likely develop in the new liver and since she most likely has microscopic cells elsewhere, a whole new “ball of wax” would develop, so the answer was “no.” The oncologist said that her heart is fine and that most likely she will develop pneumonia and die in her sleep very peacefully. He asked if she was jaundiced, yet and I told him she is not. He seemed very surprised, but said she would probably have another 2 weeks from the 2 weeks he told my dad last week. This is a far cry from the 7-6 months he gave her at consultation in January.
Mom is so bloated and we need to find a way to get the fluid off of her if we can at all. My father does not want her going to a hospital. He is not sure about the pills and I told him they most likely will offer Lasix. I think if she could get some of the fluid off, she might be able to sit up more and walk again, but I just don’t know. She is still very strong, but the bloating is terrible in her belly. It is all focused there and the pain, which had subsided 6 days ago is now back, but I think it might be more from sleeping 97% of the time in bed. She is not eating solid food at all and we are lucky if she drinks 1 Boost a day. I guess like you said, Joyce, we think of wasting away as a gradual step-by-step, but I guess it is very unique for each person and there is no way of really knowing. This has moved so fast, it is blowing us away mentally, emotionally, and physically! I mean it was only a week and a half ago I was taking dinners to my folks and Mom was eating a good portion of it. Now, we are down to 1 boost a day! She can only get up with help now and it’s a struggle–it’s heartbreaking!
Can I just say that I am SOOOOO PROUD OF MY MOTHER! Through all of this she has maintained faith, hope, love, and a wonderful sense of humor even with her dentures out! She was always so self-conscious about keeping her teeth in but the last cycle of chemo left sores in her mouth and she has had to remove the uppers for the last week. My heart aches so much for her. I am torn to shreds inside. I keep telling my family not to lose hope until all hope is gone. Mom asks me every so often “am I going to die?” I say, “I sure hope not, Mom!” Some moments she talks as if she is knows she is dying and other moments she talks of the future and “when I get better, I’m going to _____.”
What is the point of typing any of this? I guess I’m saying, if your loved one has a 13 cm mass in their liver and it’s not resectable, enjoy the time you have with them and consider that there might be a chance that chemo can actually make them worse as I think it did in my mother’s case and if you read jmoneypenny’s reports, she can attest to that as well with a similar situation. Research as much as you are able so you know you’ve done all you can but be kind to yourself knowing that even medical science and the doctors don’t have answers for this disease.
Also, if you keep getting a “stomach virus” check it out! If you keep putting a heating pad on your side like my mother was doing, thinking she bumped into a chair when actually it was a “knot” of cancer and not a swollen bump as she thought–it’s time to go to the doctor. I’m sure she was already too far for help even in November when she noticed the lump, but if you keep getting stomach pain, diarrhea or just “don’t feel right,” please don’t take it lightly for yourself or someone else. I tried telling her to go to the doctor since early summer when I suspected something might be wrong because her memory was off, but I couldn’t encourage or “threaten” her enough to go and Dad was not pushing the issue. Unfortunately, it was not taken serious. “I’m fine, and it will go away,” she said.
The oncologist said this cancer is “not rare” and that he has “treated several people with it.” If it’s not so rare then why does Medicare say it is so rare they don’t pay for some studies? All I know is that my mother was officially diagnosed in January and here it is February with maybe days or at most a couple weeks? I can’t believe we’ve gone from 6 months to a matter of 2 weeks! The only “common sense” explanation from the prognosis of “6-7 months and hopefully we can get you into next year” is that the prognosis was made before the chemo. Now, after 2 rounds of chemo we are down to 2 weeks!
It appears, unless a miracle comes from above quick, the world will lose another wonderful, self-sacrificing, giving soul, genuine in kindness and deed, and most helpful to those in need without expectations in return. I have been truly blessed to have been given this woman to call my mother and so proud of her. She will be missed more than words can express. As bad as things look, it doesn’t mean I’m not still praying and looking for a miracle…
I hope there is a cure for this terrible disease. Honestly, I think they need a better blood test, spit test, urine test, “whatever it takes” test as a way of diagnosing it early before we can even hope for a cure that will help the people who have this.
God bless all of you who are living through this and those of you who have loved ones with it. It’s an unpaved road to say the least and I feel love and admiration for each of you who are going through this battle.
For family and friends having a hard time visiting or seeing someone with this cancer, tell them what is on your heart! Odds are they are handling the situation better than you are and they will help you through it! I know you look at them and words escape you but your heart is flowing with love for this person. All I can say is don’t hold back, keep it positive and say how you feel or share what you remember–a memory, a song, anything you shared together is shared again–it does help both of you get through it and laugh–laugh as much as you can together. I am surprised at how much laughter Mom, Dad and I have had in this ordeal and I’m so glad her sense of humor is intact more than anything!
To be able to have the chance to show how much I love her and say “I’ll see ya later, Mom” is a blessing I am truly grateful to have. But for now, I’m off to see my dear mother to do just that–keeping the love alive another day!
bernieSpectatorThank you for your response and the advice. It’s all good! I’d much rather hear it straight than to tell me what you think I want to hear. Joyce, I am so sorry for your loss and the helplessness of it. No one loves you like your Mom, I say. I thank God that our memories do not leave with our loved ones who pass on, though I have faith that our love goes with them as they wait for us to follow. Your Mom, I have no doubt, was grateful for you. Your wisdom from this experience shines through. I find my mom reaching to hold my hand often and I am so glad to be here for her. Now, you’re holding the hands of people like myself who are lost and looking for hope with this rare cancer.
Mom had her 2nd 48-hour infusion of chemo. She is sleeping a lot today. We were at a disadvange during the 1st chemo cycle as she had an infection in her Mediport. It was implanted on Monday and she had her chemo on Tuesday! I thought she might get an infection after a few cycles–but NOT the 1st USE! That Thursday, she had a fever, couldn’t walk, and looked pale. Her voice was soft and had trouble breathing. We didn’t know what was happening. Was it the cancer, chemo, or was she dying? Thankfully, the oncologist called us back quickly and even he was confused. “5FU is gentle chemo and she shouldn’t have this kind of reaction,” he said. His thoughts were either she was at “end of life” or she “possibly had an infection in the port.” He also said she was dehydrated and if we didn’t get her hydrated by the weekend she would be in the ER. Thankfully, the antibiotic he called in for us took care of the infection, and we were able to get her hydrated by the weekend! She did not end up in the ER but improved with each day. In fact, she had 4 awesome days of being her “old self,” and that was great! She was eating more, had more energy, and had a strong voice. Hopes ride high when you get days like that and I hope there are still some coming!
She slowly started to go down Friday night and stayed down until the chemo this past Tuesday. However, the oncologist did say she would have a “wave” or “hill pattern” with this 5FU. Technically, this will be our 1st real “dry run” of what we should expect. She will have another cycle of it and an MRI to look for results. That will be in March. We are praying for great news as my parents 52nd anniversary will be on the 13th.
I know that she gauges us just like we gauge her, so if I am down; she will be down. If I don’t keep believing, and stay optimistic, I am no good for any of us. I also have my father to consider. He is stressed and trying to “take charge of the situation,” but honestly, he just cannot do it all–he’s doing a good job, but he’s not domesticated! I’d give him an apron but I’m afraid he would use it to put duct tape in one pocket and a can of WD-40 in the other! He has mastered eggs well, so Mom does get her protein for breakfast! Mainly, I have to walk that “fine line” of being helpful without being intrusive in their marriage. My father wants every minute he can with his wife, and I have to honor that. I think we will know when it is time to call for Hospice care. She is walking and able to dress herself, etc., so we are not at that stage.
If the 5FU does not show any progress, the oncologist did mention Gemcitabine as probably the next chemo to try. I am not sure about that, surely, your mother’s situation might be a warning sign for me and I will take that into consideration. I have at least 4 more weeks to research.
I believe, she will know when she has had enough. We will support her decision as she knows what she can tolerate. My prayer is, and has been from the very beginning, is to get this mass small enough for a resection as that seems to offer the best possible outcome though I know it is not without risks, too. Of course, we’re also willing to accept a miraculous dissappearing liver mass as well!
I feel your pain and I know you know where I am in this struggle. Thank you for your support and sharing your mother’s story. We have been blessed with mothers who love us so much that we will never stop loving them.
Many blessings to you!
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