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thankyou betty for the info – i am v interested to hear some more details about this patient on herceptin..
jules
julesSpectatorthankyou everyone who has replied to me and passed on some v useful info, marianne i am delighted to hear that mark’s tumor is shrinking, i can’t begin to imagine how difficult it must be to have a new baby to care for in the middle of all this, i think that this disease is the pits, however i think that sites like this can help so much to keep us all informed and help in the sense that you don’t feel so alone.
julesSpectatorpatricia,
I am sorry to hear that the hospital were not able to provide an adequate standard of post op care, are you NHS or private? – I would have thought that private would be better..
I admire your husbands strength and determination to gain some control over this – I think that it is all too easy to allow the conventional medics to take over – and in the case of cc chemo is undeveloped and so hit and miss.. my dad is reluctant to try chemo, he has been told that there is only a 20% chance of chemo working and if he goes down that road it would severely limit what he can do in the time that we have.
It is a difficult decision to make, and we feel so helpless, I suppose that all we can do is support them in any decisions they make and keep searching for hope.
Best wishes
Jules
julesSpectatorhi marianne, thankyou, first hand experience of this drugs is helpful, i am sorry that the cisplatin made mark sick – has the chemo been effective in shrinking the tumor? I hope we can still go on holiday too – we are fed up with this dreadful illness dominating our lives. Kind regards, Jules
julesSpectatorstacie, thanks for the info – how is mark doing now? what were the side effects with oxaliplatin? thanks, jules
julesSpectatori was sorry to learn that your husband has been admitted to hospital, however maybe it will help to push along his treatment, i can empathise with him over the hospital food, over cooked stodge is not very appetizing…would your husband not be more comfortable with stents? – my dad had great relief from the symptoms of shivering/itching/rigors after a metal stent was fitted, metal stents have a longer life and are less prone to blockage, the NHS are not keen on them as they are v expensive. From what you have said though PDT will do the same job. I hope it goes smoothly for you both and it is good that your husband will not have to stay in hospital too long. He will soon be home, hopefully alot more comfortable.
My Dad is doing well, his weight is stable, he is still waiting for prof cunninghams verdict re the chemo.
Jules
julesSpectatorPatricia,
my dad had violent shivering too when all this started last year before he had any treatment, i think it was because his bilirubin was so high (is your husband looking jandiced?), he was also itching all over, as soon as they inserted the metal stent the symptoms eased and the bilirubin levels started to fall. I can’t help feeling that your husband is long overdue some treatment, we gave up on the NHS in the end – as soon as my dad started down the private route everything came together and they move quickly.
Jules
julesSpectatorpeter,
your story is inspiring, you did very well to be discharged from hospital after just one week! – my dad has had a similar op and has been told that he won’t need chemo, initially you think – can this be right? (as many people seem to have chemo post op) it is great to hear that you are doing so well.
Jules
julesSpectatorPatricia,
how is it going? – my dad is starting to put on some weight and feeling a bit more positive, hope things are looking more positive for you and your husband, are you going to france?
Jules
julesSpectatorPatricia,
thankyou for your message. I think that you have such a positive attitude and I admire your approach to this. I agree that to have a support network is so important. Unfortuantly my dad does not have such a network, he took early retirement when he was 53 and his passion since then has been sailing, now that he is not fit enough to sail he is very depressed. He would never be willing to do anything other then be skipper and in charge!
I am 35, have 2 brothers who I never hear from and my parents only get the occaisional phone call from them. My dad has refused visits from friends as he feels they are coming ‘out of curiosity’ – my dad is a very private man and is unable to discuss how he is feeling, it makes perfect sense to me that the whole body and mind needs to be treated and it must help to be able to talk openly about how you are feeling, however i keep reminding myself that i can’t really appreciate how my dad feels. My dad was really poorly before he would agree to any treatment. His faith was in the NHS, he had health screening privately about 3 yrs ago which picked up abnormal liver function, he then was seen by a liver consultant on the NHS for 3 yrs who put his liver problems down to ‘alcohol damage’ despite the fact that he’d never drunk to more then the occ glass of wine – even when he was admitted to the local hospital in Jan 05 with abdominal pain they failed to spot the fact that he had a tumor covering about 60% of his liver, they discharged him saying they didn’t know what was wrong with him, my dad then progressively got worse – he became jaundiced, was in pain, could hardly move, could not eat and was in agony with the itching and fevers. He went back to his GP who claimed that he didn’t know what could be wrong with him, but would try to get him a scan on the NHS, eventually i persuaded my Dad to have a scan done privately and it was not until july last yr that this was picked up. My Dad does not have health insurance and has had to use his life savings to pay for scans, treatment, operations as we have been told that he cannot wait for NHS treatment. I think that you are wise to go to France – I believe that in theory you should be able to claim back cost for treatment from the NHS when you return – a case recently went before the European Court of Justice concerning a lady who had a hip replacement in France as she could not wait forever on a NHS list. I think the NHS just cannot cope with the pace of modern medicine and that the system is crumbling, I would pursue these alternatives if i were you..I appreciate our exchanges on this board and thank you for your kind words and encouragement, i don’t feel quite so alone. I hope that i can be of some comfort and help to you too. I am thinking of you, your husband and your family every day. Take care,
Jules
julesSpectatorlainy
i am really pleased for your husband and your family, he has obviously been through a very hard time with the operation, my dad is still recovering from his. It is fantastic news that his scan is clear. what is this lab work that he will be having? – is he going to be having some chemo as a ‘mop up’? – do you have any idea what chemo combination he will be having? is the surgeon confident that he got clear margins?
kind regards
Jules
julesSpectatorPatricia,
thanks for the info. I think this drug looks hopeful. How is your husband? It must be a worry for you when you are at work.. do you have any support at home? – my mum feels very isolated – some people avoid you, i think they feel embarressed and don’t know what to say – the best thing they can do is just listen. My dad just seems to want to talk over the illness, the operation etc..over and over, i can understand that this is helping him to make sense of it all. My Dad is finding it hard to live with the uncertainty and is depressed, i find this hard to deal with sometimes as i just want to make the most of the time we have, however i can’t really imagine how it must feel for him. He still gets really tired and is troubled by a persistant cough which drains him other then that physically i think he is doing okay.
kind regards
Jules
julesSpectatorKelly,
How is your brother doing? – is he recieving chemotherapy? – do you think that he could be a candidate for surgery in the future if the tumors shrink? It must be a great strength to him that he has such a supportive family all rooting for him. You can go round in circles with internet research as i know – i find this site very informative, i feel as though we are all fighting it together, it is a great comfort.
jules
julesSpectatorPatricia,
my Dad often has a temperature in the evening, he has been told that this is due to infection. he has started a course of antibiotics. My Dad has been symptomatic for a year now. Throughout he has had problems with temperature ‘spikes’ – normally worse in the evening, he feels rough with the temperature and often experiences nausea and appetite loss with it, he takes paracetamol and goes to bed when he feels like this. It does pass, the liver amongst many other fuctions regulates body temperature as i’m sure you are probably aware – i don’t know whether this is relevant. as for speed of growth i think this depends on different factors – ie whether the tumor is hepatic (began growing outside the liver) or intrahepatic (contained within the liver) i think i am right in saying that intrahepatic is more aggressive. I think in general that it is very hard to say how the disease effects individuals (as we have discussed before in relation to statistics) however i can understand that you need some idea of what to expect. I have tried to steer clear of this information as i am trying to focus on a cure. last year i was told to go away, accept what was happening and just make the most of ‘the few months you have with your father’ – had i taken this advice my dad would not be here now, i think that it is just a case of finding a dr prepared to make the effort to help and who specialises in bilary/liver surgery and medicine. Your husband’s tumor is small, forgive my ignorance – is the omentum part of the bowel? – have you sought a second opinion?
keep strong
jules
julesSpectatorpatricia,
I am really sorry to hear that your husband is feeling unwell again, this must be a very anxious time for you, sometimes as carers i think we feel so helpless. It does not seem right to me that your husband is not getting treatment of any sort. PDT does sound very promising, also some combinations of chemo have been holding the condition stable and easing symptoms, I think you need to press your Drs for some action to help ease any discomfort that your husband is experiencing.thinking of you both
Jules
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