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    Hi Patti,

    I’m sorry to hear about your CT results, but don’t give up hope. I agree with Jeff – the surgical opinion should come from a GI surgeon with a lot of cc experience.

    I wanted to clarify my earlier post about the biopsy slides. I dont think they would have released the slides into our possession. I think there were 2 reasons the slides weren’t sent. My Dad’s primary doc requestd a surgical appointment, not an oncology appointment. The surgeon didn’t need the slides, so Mayo did not request them. Second, the primary doc and the GI who did they biopsy were at two different facilities in different towns. I’m sure that didn’t help.

    Once you reach the point of having a second opinon lined up, that would be the time to make sure the slides are requested and sent.

    At that point in the process, we did not understand the difference between surgical and oncology appointments. If I had known, I would have requested both before we arrived at Mayo. But we didn’t ask for the oncology appt. until our meeting with Dr. Gores, the surgeon. At that point, it was too late for slides to be requested and sent, without us staying another few days in MN, which my Dad did not want to do.

    Patti, keep pushing for the second opinion – the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Perhaps surgeons associated with university teaching/research hospital would have different payment options than Mayo for those without insurance. It might be something to look into.

    Best of luck, you are in my prayers.

    Rae

    in reply to: What can we expect? #19390
    rae
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    Hi Glenda,

    I’m so sorry about your mom. My dad was taken by this disease at 70, and he also passed away at home. My mom and I took care of him.

    Regarding what to expect, I know from reading the posts on this site that people have very different experiences. Our own experiences were similar to some here, very different from others.

    We had overall, a very good experience with hospice, and I don’t know how we would have made it through without them. When my dad was no longer able to get out of bed, they arranged an aide to to bathe him and wash his hair, which we never could have done, at least not that well. They made sure we had medicines on hand before we needed them. We could call them 24-7, describe what was happening with my dad, and they would know what it meant, if anything could be done to help, etc.

    In the last 5 days of his life, my dad became very confused, and did not always know who we were. This was because of the ammonia building up in his blood due to liver failure. He stopped wanting to eat, and rarely wanted to drink. As the fluid built up in his abdomen, it pressed on his lungs, which made him a bit short of breath. He refused the oxygen that hospice had brough earlier to have on hand. In the last 72 hours, he became very agitated and constantly tried to get out of bed. He couldn’t stand or walk, so we were forced to sedate him so he wouldn’t hurt himself. We felt it was either that or a nursing home, which we knew he didn’t want.

    I can provide more details, but I hesitate to write them here. I don’t want to upset anyone. Please e-mail me if you need more specifics at rwojdylo@semo.edu.

    My prayers are with you and your family as you go through this difficult time,

    Rae

    in reply to: New to Board, to CC, that’s what they think I have now… #19344
    rae
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    Hi Patti,

    My dad also had intrahepatic cc, and like Joyce’s mother, did not have jaundice or pain until very close to the end. In fact, he never complained of pain and never took the pain meds until the very end, when he was sedated. His cc was discovered at his regular check-up. When the doctor pressed on his abdomen over his liver, he felt mild pain. This prompted a CAT scan, followed by a needle biopsy. He was diagnosed by a gastroenterologist in the Quad Cities.

    My mother asked his primary care physcian to arrange a second opinion at Mayo Clinic in Minnesota (she specifically asked for Mayo MN), before he even met with a surgeon locally. His Mayo appointment was 5 days later. We took a CD with his CAT scan pictures and copies of all his lab results. One thing we did not have were slides with his biopsy. If you get a second opinon elsewhere, make sure these are sent so you can see an oncologist wherever you go. We met with the Mayo surgeon (Dr. Gores or Gore), but were not able to meet with the oncologist because the slides had not been sent. We didn’t know to request them.

    In my father’s case, this did not really matter, because it was inoperable – (the tumor was against and partially surrounding the vena cava), relatively symptom free aside from weight loss and fatigue, and elected not to do chemotherapy. He never saw an oncologist, even locally.

    I would urge you strongly to seek a second opinion. My dad was comfortable with his decision not to seek chemo, and we were able to support him, because we went to Mayo. That decision is such a personal thing – but that visit to Mayo was really a comfort to my mother and I, even though they essentially said there was no hope in my dad’s case. If it were me, I would have kept seeking a third or fourth opinion, but it wasn’t me, it was my Dad. And he was able to make a better decision for himself because of that visit.

    I don’t post often here, because it makes me cry sometimes, but I visit regularly and can answer questions you or anyone might have about my Dad’s experience, either here or privately through my e-mail at rwojdylo@semo.edu.

    My prayers are with you, and everyone on this board.

    Rae

    in reply to: My beautiful Patty is at rest #17971
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    Dear Ted,

    I am so sorry for your loss. Your stories about Patty’s fight were inspiring for my Dad, who also decided not to do chemo. My thoughts are with you and your family.

    Rae

    in reply to: Update on my Dad #17162
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    I honestly don’t know how I would get through this without all of you and this site. Your responses are so understanding and supportive. They really do help me enormously.

    I am swamped at work at the moment, so I have to sign off, but I just wanted to thank all of you for your kindness and caring. I will try to write more later, but it may not be until after I get back from visiting Dad.

    in reply to: My dad just diagnosed #16418
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    Dear Bill,

    Thank you for your reply. My parents plan to talk to their regular doctor this week to get some recommendations for an oncologist for pallative care in our home town. Unfortunately, they live in a small town in Iowa, and the nearest “major” medical center is 45 minutes away. This doesn’t sound like much, but my mom still works and she is down to one vacation day left for the year, with all the travel already for the diagnosis, etc. And, she doesn’t dare retire, becuase they are relying on her health insurance for my dad. We are hoping their regular doctor has some good suggestions about someone in their hometown to see. They live in Clinton, Iowa.

    I’m glad we sound like we’re on top of this situation, because I certainly don’t feel that way. I think because my dad feels basically ok right now, they are not in a great rush to see another doctor. I desperately want to take all this off my mom’s shoulders, and do all the work, go with my dad to every appointment, etc. But I live 6 hours away, and with two children that just started the school year, etc., I can’t be away from home and job for weeks at a time. I’m afraid to use all my vacation time now, becuase I may need to be there later too. So I’m sitting here in Missouri, not being able to do a thing, other than talk to them on the phone. As a Type A person, it is hard to feel so helpless.

    We too were very impressed with Dr. Nagorney and the Mayo Clinic. Although he said there was nothing that could be done surgically, he really took a lot of time with us, and answered all our questions with honesty and compassion.

    Kathleen sounds like a very courageous person. I wish you both the best, and my prayers are with you both as she starts another round of chemo.
    Rae

    in reply to: My dad just diagnosed #16415
    rae
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    Dear Joyce – Thank you for your reply – it helps enormously to have your support for my Dad’s decision, and the affirmation that my mother and I are doing the right thing in not urging him to do the chemo. I’m so sorry about your mother. My prayers go out to you.

    I completely agree – everyone has to make their own decisions, and there is no right answer. It takes enormous courage to battle this disease with or without the chemo. My Dad has already amazed me with his strength and ability to make this hard decision.

    Our main focus right now is trying to preserve the quality of Dad’s life and keep things as normal as possible for as long as possible. Even with the weight loss and increasing fatigue, I think we are still in a bit of a state of disbelief and shock. I’m worried about what will happen to his mental state once the disbelief wears off and if he continues to physically decline. I think it is an excellent idea about the hospice counselor – that had not even occured to me.

    My dad has gained two pounds this weekend. We have persauded him to cut back on the treadmill at the gym – I found out he was burning 500 calories doing this (!!), which is a lot to make up if he’s trying to maintain/gain weight. Not to mention that he was exhausting himself.

    My prayers best wishes to you and your family,
    Rae

    in reply to: My dad just diagnosed #16414
    rae
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    Dear Ted and Patty – Thank you so much for your prayers and helpful information. I have dug the juicer out of the back of my kitchen cupboards, and am going to experiment with making some carrot juice. I have read that if you add apple juice to it, it makes it taste better. I am also going to look for a vegan cookbook, and the supplements you’ve listed. I’m trying to take as much of the burden of all this off my mother as much as I can. I live 6 hours away, and if I can do the research and legwork, maybe she can persuade my dad to do some of these things.

    I’m happy to read that Patty is doing so well with this approach and enjoying life – my prayers are with you both for her continued strength.
    Rae

    in reply to: My dad just diagnosed #16411
    rae
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    Dear Jean — Thank you so much for your reply. I’m so sorry to hear about your husband. The words seem so inadequate, but your reply is a great comfort to me, so I hope mine is the same for you in a small way, at least.

    It is a hard decision not to go with chemo. I feel guilty not telling my Dad to fight, but I DO think it is the right decision.

    I am relieved to read that your husband was, for the most part, pain-free. My Dad has lost some his appetite, especially for chicken and other meats. He does still enjoy pasta, peanut butter, eggs. I’m thinking protein shakes are a good idea for him. He has lost so much muscle tone so quickly.

    My Dad has two granddaughters (my daughters, 9 and 7 years old.) He said his one regret is not being able to see them grow up. I’m hoping he will at least have lots more good visits with them before he leaves us.

    Love to you and your family,
    Rae

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