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Hi Gavin
I am thinking of you and your dad. This disease is so harsh. My mom had her stent replaced last week and I feel like we’re right back to the first 7 weeks she spent in the hospital after she was diagnosed. I’m really trying to be strong for her when she can’t be but it really is such a wretched disease.
I hope your dad’s vomiting gets under control soon – he must be so exhausted. I hope you managed to get out for curry (yum) and that Bazel’s deep breathing works (I plan to try it myself tonight).
Take good care.
Sharonsharon_teammarianMemberHi Gavin,
It’s hard watching this disease slowly take apart our strong independent loved ones. My mom was told shortly after her diagnosis this summer that there was no treatment that could help her. The doctors offered pain management and quality of life for the time she has. She knows what she is dealing with and yet her spirit is indomitable (sp?). We’e had so many hard conversations and will have to have more I’m sure. But each day that she isn’t feeling too much pain or that she laughs and meets a friend for tea or hugs a grandchild or great grandchild feels like a small victory.
Your dad sounds incredible and your posts have helped so many of us who are taking care of our parents with CC. Hang in there
Wendy, I hope your mom comes out of this bad bout soon.
sharon_teammarianMemberLainy, it may not be an award anybody wants, but I am VERY grateful to you and your attitude. Your openess and willingness to share both your and Teddy’s experiences have helped me and my family tremendously as we try to navigate CC and help my mom as best as we can.
So “thanks!” and here’s to attitude!
sharon_teammarianMemberI will mention this to the doctor. The pain does seem to be more on the “bothersome” scale and she does like heat and massage which is what we have been doing along with tylenol.
My mom has been complaining about heartburn so this might be a good lead. Are there any adverse side effects from the lansoprazol?
Thanks!
sharon_teammarianMemberHi Joseph,
Let me join in welcoming you to this site. I only joined recently yet I have benefitted so much from the collective knowledge, wisdom and support that I have found here. I can’t comment on Xeloda but the search function was extremely helpful in helping my mom get a diagnosis for a side effect of CC and subsequent treatment to help her.
I’ll be thinking of you and your father
sharon_teammarianMemberDear Michelle,
I am so sorry for your loss. You and your family are in my thoughts.
Sharon
sharon_teammarianMemberJust wanted to close out this post. We did indeed find out that mom has hepatic encephalopathy. Luckily we caught it early enough that she can start treatment with lactulose and with prevacid.
Thanks so much to to Patty and Walk for suggesting it as it turned out to be exactly that.
Here’s hoping we’ll see improvement in her short-term memory and confusion soon.
Thanks again!!!
sharon_teammarianMemberHi Kris,
I just joined this board recently but have been lurking for a few months. My mom was diagnosed in July and is either late stage 3 or stage 4 depending on which doctor we talk to. (We decided to stop caring about stages and focus on my mom only.) Both as a lurker and now as a participant, I have read many of your posts. You are incredible and have helped me to better understand what my mom may be experiencing. But this post of yours reminds me so much of my mom that I wanted to respond.
Like you, my mom is absolutely adamant that she will not take prescription pain medicine until she has to. At 79 years old, she takes no medication at all and it is both a source of strength and of pride for her. I do believe that it is her way of giving this disease a not so polite hand sign.
However lately her pain has been increasing and she also was just diagnosed today with hepatic encephalopathy. She agreed to take lactulose and prevacid (antacid) but is still refusing pain meds as today she’s feeling ok. For my mom, even accepting the lactulose and prevacid is a major concession. As she said, “I’ll do what needs doing but I don’t have to like it”.
I have some many different feelings warring inside me: on the one hand, I absolutely don’t want her to feel anymore pain than she has to and know there are medications that can help her; on the other hand, I love her fiestiness and spirit because it is so her. Whatever you do, it will be the right thing for you to keep “you” here and fighting strong.
I’m thinking of you and sending positive energy your way
October 28, 2009 at 2:55 am in reply to: Mom starting to experience more pain. Not sure what to do #32573sharon_teammarianMemberWe went to the doctor today. As suspected her bloodwork showed many counts were too high and too low. Her bilirubin is high but we know she will always probably have some level of jaundice. The key was the ammonia level which along with all the other symptoms she exhibits, confirm that mom does have hepatic encephalopathy.
The good news is that it is not so far advance that the symptoms can’t be managed and even – hopefully – somewhat reversed. She starts lactulose and prevacid tomorrow but she still refused the prescription pain medicine as today she is feeling better again and wants to keep trying to manage with tylenol when she needs it. Her doctor has set up more frequent regular visits (every two weeks) to keep a closer eye on mom’s pain management and has also ensured bloodwork be done at least once a month.
Does anyone have any input of vaccines? Mom had her regular flu shot today and will have the H1N1 shot next week. The doctor also mentioned a pneumonia vaccine given her compromised immune system.
The doctor mentioned that suggesting hepatic encephalopathy was helpful and was glad I had done so. I told her about this site and discussion board and how it’s been such a source of information for us and also suggested she research some of the more well known centres that treat CC.
We also touched on briefly the fact that it is likely that the hepatic encephalopathy will continue to progress and that it may eventually lead to coma. But – one day at a time.
Today was a good day. We had such a lovely visit and mom made a major leap forward in accepting some daily medication for the first time.
Now let’s hope we see some results and her confusion and short-term memory improve some.
Thanks again all of you for the support and advice. We might have never gotten to this diagnosis without the responses to my first post
October 27, 2009 at 3:25 am in reply to: Mom starting to experience more pain. Not sure what to do #32569sharon_teammarianMemberVery worried about tomorrow’s appointment. Have been doing a fair bit of research on hepatic encephalopathy. My mom is exhibiting so many of the symptoms. I am very worried that her bloodwork results will show elevated ammonia levels and clinch the diagnosis. However, there seem to be some treatments which might potentially offer her some relief, so that would be good.
Mom was feeling good today but she did have a rough weekend – more fatigue and generally not feeling well. She also asked us to get her antacids as she felt she had acid reflux. Also her bouts of “chills” are increasing but she’s not running a fever. Her nurse Debbie has been dropping by more often – she’s treated a few CC patients which is of comfort to us all, given how rare it is.
Then this morning mom was feeling good and is back to smiles, up and dressed, eating breakfast before my sister arrived at 9 a.m. And only one midday nap. Her great grandson Issac came by for a visit too which she just loved
I am finding it hard to balance just wanting to enjoy the good days with a huge, compulsive need to understand what “might” happen. But I am so worried about finding out about something too late that may make her more comfortable.
Ack!!. Thanks for the freedom to rant a bit.
sharon_teammarianMemberHi Gavin,
I was saddened to read your post. Your dad seems like such a fighter who rallies even when he’s feeling poorly. I hope that he is able to work through today’s blow and to keep that beast depression at bay. And I am glad to hear he’s not experiencing the itching – I think that was one of the worst things my mom experienced.
We go to the doctor tomorrow with mom, where we will get her bloodwork results. We’ve been waiting for them but at the same time I am dreading them and what they’ll tell us.
One day at a time, eh?
Hang in there,
Sharon
October 25, 2009 at 3:18 pm in reply to: Mom starting to experience more pain. Not sure what to do #32566sharon_teammarianMemberThanks everyone for the input. Lisa, that website is excellent. I read through the tips for caregivers which provided me with many questions for the doctor and for my mom. My sisters and I have been approaching her steadily this week about the fact that she might want to consider medication for pain relief. Yesterday, my sister said she seemed more open then she has in the past so I am hopeful she will listen to her doctor on Tuesday.
Gavin, I went back and read some of your posts about your dad and mom. They provided me with insight and also renewed my engery to help my mom through all of this.
I’ll post again on Tuesday after we go to the doctor.
Sharon
sharon_teammarianMemberHi Carlos,
Like Gavin, my mom can not have surgery. However when she was first diagnosed she experienced pancreatitis after one of her procedures. It caused extreme pain and took her several weeks in hospital to recover. She did use a sleeping pill to get through the worst days and nights.
She was very depressed when she came home for almost two weeks. I think the combination of being diagnosed with cancer, being in extreme pain for weeks and not sleeping well left her with no reserves. I am happy to say that she did turn the corner and while her prognosis is not great, she is her sweet self again.
I am sending you positive energy from Canada.
Sharon
sharon_teammarianMemberThanks so much everyone.
Right now my mom does not have any medication other than the occasional tylenol. She did have blood taken yesterday so I will pass on to her doctor some of the suggestions here. We have a follow up appointment with her on Tuesday next week.
I will also search hepatic enephalopathy. To be honest the dementia/early stage Alzeiher’s sounds scarily familiar when I read about it…
Patty and Walk, was there anything that you felt was particularly helpful for your mom and dad when this happened?
sharon_teammarianMemberThank you all for your warm welcome. The last 3 months have been somewhat surreal.
I am amazed at how fast this has all happened. While it felt like this disease came out of nowhere, looking back we (my sibs and I) notice many clues but they were so vague. Everyone – including my mom’s family physician – attributed her symptons to something else: pain to her shoulder surgery, general malaise and feeling “off” to dealing with chronic pain and just getting older. Even when she began to get itchy, both she and her doctor felt it was an allergic reaction to advil which she had been taking regularly on the advice of her orthopedic surgeon (she had 6 of the 7 listed side effects). It wasn’t until she had jaundice that she went for her first ultrasound. Then everything happened with great speed. Ultrasound on Monday, ERCP on Tuesday followed by acute pancreatitis, CT scan on Wednesday, bypass stent insertion on Thursday.
When she had the CT scan, they noticed a larger tumor in her lower abdomen. Her specialist at the time said that is “not uncommon” with CC to see what he described as a satellite tumor. Apparently they occur in about 25% of cases and are generally benign and he suggested to leave it alone (I did read a few articles which seem to back this up). This is when it was also felt that it would be reasonable for mom to see a surgeon although her doctor was fairly certian she was nonresectable. Her second return to hospital and subsequent bypass and ERCP moved her to palliative status due to the spread of the disease. My mom was also clear that she did not feel she could live through a major surgery and wanted to really focus on quality of life for how ever long she has.
When I spoke to her doctor in August about her prognosis, he was hesitant to answer. When pushed, he felt that if she tolerates her stent well she could have a good year or so. However, he added that she could get an infection and that could be it.
Thanks again for your welcome. This site, particularly the discussion board, has provided us with more information than we can find anywhere else. We know each patient and their experience is unique, but it helps to understand what others have gone through, are going through, and to have a place to ask questions and have community of understanding of what we are going through.
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