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March 20, 2012 at 8:15 pm in reply to: Could quemo makes a non resectable tumor become resectable? #58856tlsinftlMember
Ben and I were told (by both MD Anderson and Mayo Clinic) that once CC reaches stage IV (spreading outside the liver), they no longer consider surgery an option even if the primary tumor becomes ‘resectable’. I read Grovers’ story and it sounds like it was all contained in the liver and luckily it shrunk for him allowing them to do the resection.
If anyone else is aware of someone being at Stage IV – then having a resection or transplant I would definitely like to know (and of course will be asking again at MD Anderson on our upcoming visit).
tom
tlsinftlMemberHey Tiffany I am a little behind (ok, way behind) on looking at posts – but my Ben is now about halfway through his 2nd round of the GEM/CIS protocol (his first he finished in April 2011 and his tumors shrunk by about half). So far he is about half way through this round and everything is stable.
We are going to MD Anderson and meet with the doctors on Monday the 26th just for a second opinion on scans and on what options there are after GEM/CIS – so I defintely will report back.
Meanwhile – I agree with everyone else, don’t worry. Sounds like there are plenty of options and combinations left so hang in there!
tom
tlsinftlMemberWow – another 5 weeks has passed since I’ve posted here. Time flies when you are having….well, time flies.
So – just a quick recap: my partner Ben was diagnosed with Stage IV, CC on August 30, 2010. Prognosis – 6-18 months and it’s now officially 19 months – woohoo!
Ben did chemo from November 2010 through April 2011. Scans showed up to 50% reductions at the end. We spent last summer updating our house and living normal lives.
CC reared it’s ugly head again in October (trip to Denmark cut short) and it was growing around the end of the stomach – so the Doctors did surgery to reroute. In December it was growing a bit more and was irritating the pancreas, no surgery this time – just 25mcg Fentanyl patch to manage pain. (more detail on all of the above in prior posts).
Ben has been in Chemo since January and is currently through 3.5 cycles of the normal 8 cycle GEM/CIS protocol (which worked last year). Fatigue was definitely worse this time, but overall not too many side effects – although he was losing focus and sometimes confused (high ammonia levels and onslaught of “chemo brain”).
After completion of the 3rd cycle – the doctor ordered a new CT scan. The “good” news was that the CC seemed stable, no new growths were detected but there was some “thickening along the stomach wall”. The Oncologist ordered an endoscopy to make sure there wasn’t anything new going on (so he skipped a week of chemo). The GI doctor said everything looked the same as Ocotober so chemo was restarted.
Meanwhile we decided to go back to MD Anderson for second opinions on scans and possible future protocols if the GEM/CIS stops working. (We have had some inconsistencies in local radiologists readings of scans, and while nothing would have changed the protocols we want a second opinion). Our appointment with MD Anderson is this Saturday the 24th and meeting with the doctor on the 26th. Not expecting anything major, but it’s always good to have a second opinion.
So – that’s where things stand right now. Overall, chemo is progressing well. The oncologist has recommended that Ben not drive given his inconsistent mental state (most of the time he is fine – but he is a little clumsy and confused at some points). The not driving is probably the biggest bummer for Ben since it limits him. I think he will still drive around though for short trips when he feels he is clear (not sure what others have experienced around this).
Will report back after we hear from MD Anderson, luckily there hasn’t been too much that’s changed (although stable scans is always good to hear) since my last post. All my best to everyone!
tom
tlsinftlMemberSo – here I am again – almost 5 weeks since my last post! Although after getting back here the first post I read was regarding Suzanne – it’s such a shame but also one of the reasons right now it’s difficult to get here too much.
Anyway, I don’t really have too much to report at this point. As of now – Ben has been through two cycles of his 8 cycle Gem/Cis protocol. It’s definitely a much tougher go this time then it was last year – he did end up having some nausea after the second treatment of his first round (but really hasn’t been bad and hasn’t had much since).
His biggest challenge is fatigue and ongoing high ammonia levels and some stomach pain. His fatigue level with this round – almost picked up where he left off at round 8 last April. He sleeps a lot – even almost a week later. When he is up – he does seem pretty good. He still tries to work out in the yard, planting flowers, tomatoes (for me) – oh and sorry about that my northern friends.
I have written before about high ammonia levels, the doctor prescribed lactulose – while it helps, it upsets his stomach and he doesn’t like to take it. The oncologist sent him to his GI doctor on Thursday and the doctor prescribed Xifaxan (550mg twice daily) to help stop the bacteria that causes the high ammonia levels. I see it has helped others on the board. The stomach pain is a nagging concern (while it’s not bad) it’s still a potential area of growth given his surgery in October and the pains that sent him to the hospital in December (which is being managed with Fentanyl patchs – 25mcg).
So – all in all, somewhat of a status quo. We have had some friends and relatives visiting which has been nice, although he sleeps quite a bit – hes still very interactive when he’s up. So for the most part living a “normal” life with lots of naps and stomach pain. Certainly much better then some others fare on the board.
That’s all for now – I’ll be back when I can and as always email me if you have any questions.
tom
tlsinftlMemberI’m always amazed at how much time flies between my postings, but you are all always in my thoughts.
Ben has definitely made progress on managing his pain – in my last post the pain doctors were still trying to manage the pain – without over-medicating and causing his “confused” state. As always, the veterans here – usually know what’s happening before the doctors do.
It turns out Ben’s ammonia levels were “off the charts” and the doctor prescribed 30cc of Lactulose 3 times a day to produce “loose stools”, which is the only way to reduce ammonia levels (Of course Margaret had already predicted that right after my last post!…thanks Margaret, I told the doctor about you!)!
Once Ben started the Lactulose – within about 3 days he was must clearer and almost back to his old self. So everything at this point is managed with a 25MCG Fentanyl patch for pain and 50mg of Nortriptyline to help nerve pain. He has perocet for breakthrough but really hasn’t needed that since Christmas.
Now that everything is under control, our Oncologist (Dr. David Lessen in Fort Lauderdale) gave Ben the go-ahead to restart chemotherapy. He restarted this past Thursday – January 5th. Same protocol as before since it worked so well (Gemcitibine and Cisplatin combo). Unfortunately, it took almost the whole day – his port seems to have become clogged and it was dripping soooooo sloooooow. I finally asked them to put the IV in his vein. They are now scheduling him for a “clean-up” of his port.
Ben made it through his first round quite well, no nausea and vomiting just like last time. What’s different is he isn’t staying up all night like he did in the previous rounds (I presume some of that has to do with his pain meds that make him a bit sleepy). He also started right off with going for more fluids the next day to prevent dehydration – which we started the last few rounds of his last treatments and it seemed to help. He even drove himself for the extra fluids and managed the whole day while I was at work – which I consider a huge TRIUMPH!
He still has moments where he isn’t as clear and focused as he used to be, but for the most part he’s the same old Ben. Here’s to another successful round of chemo – so we can stop these new growths in their tracks!
Thanks everyone for your ongoing support. You are all amazing.
tom
tlsinftlMemberThanks everyone for your support. Margaret thanks for the advice on the Ammonia levels. Ben has an appointment with his Oncologist today so I will bring that up when they take his blood. Also getting him back into the pain doctor today to get an adjustment there as well!
tom
tlsinftlMemberIt’s been quite a week. As I last reported, Ben entered the hospital on December 11th, with severe pain. After a week of CAT scans, MRI and Bone Scan (all showing no major growths), the doctors concluded that the cancer in the area that blocked the stomach is irritating the surrounding nerves and causing the pain.
It’s a litle depressing knowing that after 7 nights in the hospital there isn’t much to be done but manage pain, at least with the last hospitalization the surgery helped relieve the problem. But, as I’ve read on this board it does get to this point for many people.
Unfortunatley, we didn’t make it out of the hospital in time to go to MD Anderson in Houston so I had to cancel our trip there. While disappointing, it really was just a consultation, and while they tend to “see” more in their scans/radiology – I’m not sure it would actually change the next steps – which is Chemotherapy to restart next week. Since Ben had so much success with the Gemcitibine/Cisplatin cocktail, that’s the approach they are taking agin – which makes complete sense. We talked about rescheduling the MD Anderson trip on one of his first “off weeks” from the chemo regimen.
As for managing the pain, we still haven’t stuck the perfect “balance” of too much sedation (Ben is can still be confused and not quite coherent) and reduced pain. We are working with a pain doctor recommended by his physician who says he has been quite successful in strking the right balance with cancer patients. He said that while Ben will likely not be able to eliminate all the pain, he can get close and still keep him about his wits. Things do seem to be improving, as we have gone from a 50 MCG Fentanyl patch down to 25 with Percocet for breakthrough pain. The doctor has also prescribed Nortriptyline (25mg) to help with nerve pain.
They had considered a Celiac Plexus Block , but he said that can have complications and side effects, and he wanted to try to manage through pain medication first and use that as a last resort.
So, as of this writing – Ben still has some pain and confusion but we are getting to a closer balance. Luckily I can work from home and monitor him closely, documenting when he feels pain and what I’m giving him. It’s a bit stressful – especially with the holidays. I can’t help but think it’s the start of a downhill slide – but Ben is still overall healthy…blood work good, no major growth and is still eating pretty well, so I’m hoping for the best and keeping the bad stuff in the back of my mind as much as possible.
tom
tlsinftlMemberIt’s amazing to me how quickly time flies and at the same time how agonizingly slow it can be (like waiting for a doctor to stop by).
Once again, it’s been quite some time since I’ve posted on Ben’s status (although things had been somewhat “stable” for a few weeks). After his surgery in November he was recurperating pretty well at home. His surgeon was quite happy with his progress on the gastrojejunostomy (I never would have believed I would know what that means).
We had a great Thanksgiving at home with friends and family – the weather was beautiful here in Fort Lauderdale, and while Ben couldn’t eat too much, he had a great time.
He was continuing to experience intestinal discomfort (which is normal after major intestinal surgery), but it seemed to continue longer then it should have. This past week, it seemed to be increasing and things didn’t seem quite right (luckily we also fit in a holiday party where he got to enjoy more friends from the neighborhood enjoying the annual Fort Lauderdale Boat Parade!! this past Saturday).
Unfortunately the next day – Sunday, December 11th, the pain increased after his evening meal. I took him to the local emergency room where the symptoms seemed to indicate pancreatitis and they checked him into the hospital.
So, fast forward to today (Wednesday) and he’s had an MRI, CT Scan, Bone Scan. The “good” news is that none of the tests show any significant growth or masses. The “bad” news is that the doctors are certain that the primary tumor – while the area still not noticeable – are sure it’s growing and causing irritation on the pancreas, thus causing the pain. They also determined that through the areas of pain – both left and right side of his abdomen with occasional pain on the lower side.
At this point the doctors have said there isn’t much to do but manage the pain. Tomorrow (12/15/2011), we are meeting with a pain management consultant. Given the area of the pain, the doctors say there is a procedure they can do called a celiac plexus block. This procedure deadens the nerve endings in the area of the pancreas, thus relieving the pain. I’ve googled that on the board and don’t see much.
Ironically, he’s in very good health othewise. All the doctors are amazed at how quickly he recovered from his surgery, his blood tests/counts are fairly normal.
We had already scheduled a backup consultation with MD Anderson in Houston before this last hospitilization (where we went last year for a second opinion) this Saturday, so hopefully he will be out Friday and we can still make that trip.
Meanwhile, I will try to keep things documented here for my own records and anyone else who finds it useful.
I stil find it difficult to come here very much, although I think about this board on a daily basis and am committed to post here whenever anything major changes to help anyone else.
As always, thanks to everyone – and if I’m not here – I can always be reached via my personal email by clicking on the link on the left.
Take care everyone,
Tom
tlsinftlMemberMargaret – I love your list, I’m printing it out now and giving it to Ben (and me when I need it)!!
tom
tlsinftlMemberThanks everyone for your support as always. Ben has been recuperating pretty well at home – the weather is beautiful right now so he can sit outside in our backyard and watch the boats go by (we live on a canal here in Fort Lauderdale, so it’s pretty neat to watch).
He has been taking it slow for food – getting back up to speed will probably take a while. Last night he started having very bad and painful cramps in his intestines accompanied by gas – so we don’ t know if the gas is causing the pain or something else. It’s gotten pretty bad so he is taking some Oxycodone to relieve the pain.
If it gets any worse we will be calling the doctor but hopefully maybe the gas and constipation (so he has taken some milk of magnesia for that which helped a couple of days ago). There always seems to be something to worry about.
tom
tlsinftlMemberSo, the next battle in the bigger war seems to be over. Ben was released from the hospital two days ago after his surgery to reroute his small intestine and bypass the blockage at the end of his stomach. He is recovering well – and the doctors say he can eat whatever he is hungry for (although his appetite hasn’t been so great). Of course this last turn of events has us anxious, and every discomfort in digestion has us wondering what else might be lurking out there (although the surgeon couldn’t see anything else in the immediate area. While I’m not at all religious – I have coined the new term “praying for poop”. (a sign that all is well)….how crazy is that?
tom
tlsinftlMemberBen made it through his surgery yesterday with no complications. The surgeon said he couldn’t see any new growth in the areas that he could see, but he did “feel” the hardness of where the cancer is in his bile duct and where it’s constricting the stomach. The doctor said he did the open surgery to make sure he could assess and access everything (I think that’s what he said).
Ben has already been sitting up in his chair and is expected to go on several walks today so it all sounds good for now. He is on the pain medication called dilaudid, morphine just doesn’t seem to have the same impact for him.
Thanks everyone for your support.
Tom
tlsinftlMemberGreat news! Keep up the positive thinking and keep living life one day at a time! Ben and I had good times through the chemo and afterwards, just be conscious of how she feels but don’t think too far ahead! You are both in my thoughts.
Tom
tlsinftlMemberThanks everyone for your support! With the barium X-ray and the cat scan the doctors determined that the cancer has grown and is blocking the flow from Bens stomach to his duodenum. Just like other cases, I guess you never know where it is lurking.
After consultation with our oncologist, GI doctor and the surgeon, decided that Ben will have surgery today (Thursday) to reroute his small intestine to bypass the blockage. The GI doctor said its a similar procedure they do for gastric ulcers, and only a one and a half hour laparoscopic surgery with a 5-6 day hospital recovery. Ben is healthy in all other aspects so hopefully the surgery will go well. They said they would start him back in chemo in about a month once he fully recovers. At least they don’t see any major growth areas, this one just got in the way of the stomach. Apparently the surgery is called, gastrojejunostomy. My vocabulary is certainly being stretched with this nasty cancer!
I have a call into the mayo clinic too see if they would render a second opinion based on the local findings but havenet heard back. My guess is they likely won’t render an opinion without seeing him, or at least not seeing the most recent scans, X-rays, etc. However, our local doctors seem confident and based on my own research on this board, these little battles and “rerouting” procedures are part of of the ongoing war.
On to surgery! Take care everyone,
Tom
tlsinftlMemberSo – here I am again posting in the good news section – something I wasn’t expecting. I feel somewhat guilty for not visiting the board more often – but have had an incredibly busy summer at work and at home. I think of everyone out here often, but admittedly sometimes struggle with getting here as I do find it emotionally difficult.
I know everyone is aware of the rollercoaster that CC sends us on – and every scan brings a new ride. You will see in my history that my partner Ben was diagnosed about one year ago (last year at this time we were at Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN). He successfully finished the standard gem/cis protocol in April and outside of fatigue at the end had very few side effects.
His first two scans after chemo were very positive and our local radiologist could not see anything remaining in his liver. We sent one of the scans to both MD Anderson and Mayo Clinic for a second opinion in July – and both came back and said that the tumor in his liver was still there, but both said it had been reduced by almost 50%. So, while we were disappointed that it wasn’t “gone”, the doctors were still elated that it had reduced by 50% (this shows why it’s always good to get a second opinion on everything).
Also, late in July our oncologist called and said that Ben’s kidney functions in a blood test showed some deterioration – so he sent us to a kidney specialist who ordered an ultrasound and additional tests. That of course added to our anxiety level.
Luckily – I am still reporting in the good news section. This past week we had follow-ups with both the kidney doctor and our oncologist after Ben’s new scan on 8/30/11. The Kidney doctor said the ultrasound showed no abnormailities – and his kidney function is within a fairly “normal range”…so he suggested no major changes to diet, etc. The radiologist report once again reported no new growth and not really anything much of interest (we are going to send these scans again to Mayo and MD), but our Oncologist continued to be encouraged and a bit amazed at Ben’s present state.
So – at this point, one year from diagnosis (with a 6-18 month prognosis), Ben’s CC has been reduced by at least half and is somewhat undetectable (although we know it’s still lurking), he feels absolutely normal – there are no side effects, he goes to the gym, all his hair has returned and we are now planning our fall vacation schedule. Our Oncologist said that it would be at least 2 months until the next scan so we just continue on.
So, that’s all for now, we just continue to live one day/week/month at a time – as always if anyone at anytime wants to be in touch just click my email link to the left and you will get my email and I promise to respond.
Tom
p.s. Marion – if you read this I haven’t forgotten about the conference in Miami in October – but I’ve forgotten the specific conference and dates. If we aren’t traveling on vacation I still plan on helping out so let me know the timing again.
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