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  • #7795
    ldittmar
    Spectator

    Hi All~~

    God’s blessings to you all.

    My husband was diagnosed with a CC Distal Tumor in 2010. He had a Whipple in Indianapolis. Small tumor: Stage 1b…clean, no invasions, negative (but very close) margins. Due to margin being a little closer than surgeon’s comfort level, my husband followed up in Goshen with radonc (5FU) and chemotherapy regimen of gemcitabine/cisplatin. His return to the new ‘normal’ has been gradual but, overall, pretty great. We’ve counted our blessings each step of the way. He finally began feeling well this past July. Running, gardening, hunting. Still, continual GI pains: burning, guts so active, some pain/cramping. It’s intermittent. Doesn’t seem to be related to certain types of foods, when he eats, how much, etc. He takes Creon three times a day. Recent pain has developed while lying on back…stomach pain that sort of radiates to back. Occasional.

    He graduated to 6-month follow-up CT scans (at least he was supposed to.) The September scan in Inday was great. Surgeon was pleased with all. A little continued inflammation at connection site, but otherwise good. Then, in March, went to Goshen for blood work. His medical onc called and said his CA 19-9 and CEA were elevated. 3X what they were in September. Unexplained. No physical symptoms. He had a CT. Nothing too remarkable…except 2 4mm spots on right lung. Onc was not overly concerned about those…new CT machine (very sensitive) and they may have been there all along. Certainly not enough to explain spike in tumor marker. He met with his peer group and they decided to do a endoscopy on Monday. Look around the bile duct area. They were all generally perplexed about the rapid elevation…with no physical symptoms and a clear looking CT. Our doctor told us it’s possible they won’t see a thing on the scope. They don’t initiate a new treatment plan based on tumor markers alone (not that we want them to.) So…

    This is where we’re at. I, of course, tend to become gripped with fear at each possibility. I wish it wasn’t so. I am up and down. My husband is all about: no need to panic….we need more information. He’s right. God is in control. One day at a time. This is the new normal. Wish I could plant myself there and let it go?!! I have caught myself trying to really overly control other aspects of daily life…of course because this area is so outside of my control. How do you all manage these up and down emotions?

    Also, what does chronic pancreatitis look like? I’ve wondered if this might be the cause of his ongoing pains? And, even more so now that it radiates to his back and he occasionally feels flu-ish. The oncologist does not think this ongoing gastric upset has anything to do with spiked tumor markers at this stage….would have happened some time ago. My husband has been a 2-3 glass of wine per night person…and, if we have something stronger, he will partake. I’ve asked him to cease all alcohol…he has. I’ve wondered if that has contributed to pains and/or increased markers?

    What are your experiences?

    Thanks for reading and caring. My best to all of you. You are all in my prayers daily….along with my Jon.

    Blessings,
    Laurie

    #67671
    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi,
    It takes a while but for biliary tract CCA ; 5FU injection as bolus and continuous IV infusion(diluted) over 24 hours or as 5FU IV pump(undiluted) for 48hr,+Gemzar has been used on day 1 and Gemzar only on day 8, repeat every 21 days as a cycle; continue regimen until disease progress or unacceptable toxicity occur(ie: ataxia)
    Patient compliance is the major advantage for Xeloda.
    5FU as a chemosensitizer used in radiation treatment may not be effective due to the lower dosage used as a chemosensitizer as compare to using 5FU in the treatment of CCA, the disease.
    God bless.

    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi, Marion,
    Yes, the linked study is for 5 patients, but the side effect of 5FU are listed long time ago , this article got my attention because of they specifically mention the word “capecitabine induced”.
    Below is another link about 5FU cardiotoxicity.

    http://7thspace.com/headlines/428372/5_fu_induced_cardiac_toxicity___an_underestimated_problem_in_radiooncology.html

    I do not think most of the CCA patient will see a cardiologist until their GP or oncologist suggesting the patients to do so. I think getting a EKG reading for 24 hours( using holter monitor device ) every year is a good starting point.but it needs an order from your GP or cardiologist. Standard EKG at the doctor or at the hospital may not pick up the EKG change at the time of testing.
    God bless.

    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi,
    Cardio toxicity of 5FU include angina,arrhythmias including,Ventricular tachycardia,cardiogenic shock,chest pain(unspecified),coronary vassos plasm,myocardial infarction,palpitations,electrocardiographic changes and sudden death.
    Patient who have cardiac problems should mention it to the doctor before starting 5FU or capecitabine. And adequate hydration is helpful.

    Beta-blockers such as Lopressor; calcium channel blockers such as Diltiazem and nitrates such as nitroglycerin tablet or the patch will help to relieve the chest pain.
    Upon such findings, as a patient on Xeloda for almost a year, once again, I will tap into my resources to see what they can suggest to me.
    God bless.

    #67442

    In reply to: Oxiliplatin

    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi,
    Sorry, I do not know the answer, in general ,if you can tolerate the drug and it works on the cancer, you can continue to take it until otherwise.
    The problem is that the accumulative toxicity like peripheral neuropathy sooner or later will force patients to stop treatment .And the toxicity will last much longer than you expected depending on the total accumulated dose.( due to the long term retention period of the platinum drug is between 8-75 month; oxaliplatin has three t1/2 life [half life] at 0.26 hr,16.3 hour and 273 hr.)
    Therefore the toxicity may show up within the first 1-2 hour of each infusion, as acute peripheral neuropathy which can be resolved within hours of onset;(about 38 % of pts);or the delayed type will show up in>14 days and the symptoms will be persistent (about 48% pt who are on 5FU+oxaliplatin)
    Other patients cannot continue oxaliplatin included those whose will develope low platelets—-bleeding concern( 64-71%) and white blood cell count—eg.infection concern(73-81% in study done for colon cancer on long term treatment.)
    God bless.

    #67103

    In reply to: need help for my dad

    lovedad09
    Spectator

    We spent another day in hospital did nothing. Many doc came but the surgeon doc didn’t come. His residence doc came and said per the CT, the tumor is very close to hepatic artery that the surgeon thinks too dangerous to do surgery. I asked recommendation, residence doc doesn’t seem to have idea. said need to talk to family–us with doc. I said so where is the doc that never shows up??? I am not happy about the response at all. We still don’t have much detail on what’s going on. I got the CT report, and CT in CD. Will take to Sloan once my dad is discharge.

    Today they said will talk to the surgeon and discover next step. oh yeah, that’s the same answer I heard 2 days ago. We are here for 2 days nothing happened.

    The big question I have is they put him in hospital because bilirubin is high. 3 blood tests, 15, 30, and when we were in the hospital the 1st day, it’s 23. So from 30 to 23, dropped. I wounder if the stent wasn’t working but now works a little? If we still need to drain bile outside of the body. I am mad that the surgeon said we need to take care of the high bilirubin; it’s so high and dangerous…. ok, so we are in the hospital 3 days, this has not been taken care of or even talked about. I don’t see they believe this is urgent any more?? I have a strange feeling… maybe the surgeon wants to know if my dad is operable, but found he can’t do it, so he lost interested in us.

    one oncologist came yesterday. said if we like to go to Sloan, it’s great idea. he doesn’t see confident about any helpful chemo suggestions. Said in general, it’s Gem… and the 5FU? The 2 medicine I see often in this board. he said could help extend a few months live. very depressing. I asked if he can give us different treatment options to compare pros/cons/side effects…. like a menu that we can consider in restaurant? Maybe I asked too much, he said no. just Gem something and the 5FU…the standard ones. I am not comfortable with his answers that doesn’t seem to work with my dad per his situation.

    The radiation doctor also came yesterday. Dr. James Wong, chairman of radiation. He seems very optimistic and said the tumor is small. He has treated a lot of patients and many of them well under control, sounds very confident and promising. He said if we like to start, can do 5 days 15 min each day for while/maybe a month I forgot. I ask side effect… he said if my dad can’t stand it, maybe start 2 weeks, wait 1 week. something like that. And he said his department is very high ranking, aim very well on the tumor…. Dad felt very comfortable and hopeful after heard from Dr. Wong. I hope it is so “easily” under control. I heard radiation accumulates. Some people start well, and later very weak. Not sure my dad already very weak…. can he afford to do that. But leave untreated is no good either. so tough.

    Dr. Fong won’t see us until my dad been discharged from current hospital. It’s so waste of time staying here. I feel lost again about the next step.

    #67191

    In reply to: Staging

    2000miler
    Spectator

    Thanks Eli for the info that the foundation’s link on staging is out of date. I found that I could download all of the previous AJCC Cancer Staging Manuals from the AJCC website for free. I downloaded the 6th version (2003-2009) and found that it matches the foundation’s info on staging for ICC (pp131-138 of the manual.) I also finally looked at the NCCN Guidelines for ICC (7th ed., 2010) which you mentioned and found the staging that Percy previously stated. It’s interesting that they dropped the MX classification (which the Ochsner pathologist used) so I assume, since they didn’t find any distant metastasis, M0 must apply. If that’s the case, my wife’s stage is Stage IVA.

    At least that’s what it looks like until after I digest Percy’s comments. Percy, I just learned today, after reading the 6th edition of the cancer staging manual that there is both clinical staging and pathologic staging. The surgeon never told us the clinical stage. He did say that it was intrahepatic cholangiocarcinoma but because the cancerous lymph node, which was pressing against the common bile duct and causing it to bleed on the inside, I thing he said he was going to perform the surgery more like he would do extrahepatic cholangiocarcinoma surgery. We had conflicting opinions on whether the lymph node had fused to the common bile duct. I believe the surgeon thought it had and the doctor who inserted the stent thought they were separable. The surgeon intially said that he would have to remove all of the right lobe and some of the left lobe, a total of 72%, but after the surgery, he said he didn’t have to remove as much as he initially thought. A couple of weeks after the surgery we met in his office and he gave me a copy of the pathology report and he went throught it with us, emphasizing that it was the best he could have ever expected, specifically addressing the 1 positive node out of 7, and the 2 cm margins. Later the oncologist went through the report with us and the one thing she was concerned with was the “poorly differentiated” histologic grade.

    The pathologist report shows the following:

    SPECIMEN:
    1) Falciform ligament – fibrofatty and vascular tissue. Negative for malignancy
    2) Hepatic Artery Lymph Node – One (1) benign lymph node
    3) Biliary Stent: Gross Diagnosis only
    4) Proximal Bile Duct Margin: Negative for Malignancy
    5) Liver Segments 4B, 5, 7, and 8; Partial Hepatectory: See Synoptic Report:

    Specimen: Liver
    Procedure: partial hepatectomy, major hepatectomy
    Tumor size: 6.4 cm
    Tumor focality: Solitary
    Histologic type: Cholangiocarcinoma
    Histologic grade: Poorly differentiated G3 out of 4
    Tumor growth pattern: Mass forming
    Microscopic tumor extension: Confined to the hepatic parenchyma
    Hepatic parenchymal margin: uninvolved, 2 cm from tumor
    Bile duct margin uninvolved
    No lymphovascular or perineural invasion identified
    pT1 N1 MX
    One (1) hilar lymph node positive for metastatic carcinoma out of 6
    Additionally, hepatic artery lymph node is benign
    Background liver is unremarkable

    Immunostains performed with appropriate positive and negative controls. Tumor cells are positive for keratin 7 and negative for keratin 20, hepatocyte antigen, and estrogen receptor. Findings are consistent with intrahepatic cholangiocarcinoma. Tumor surrounds and invades a medium sized branch of the biliary tree. There is marked acute inflammation and necrosis in the tumor.

    I think I included both info from the surgeon and the pathology report in my previous messages on the discussion boards.

    When I said “spread to the liver” I envisioned the cancer starting in a small bile duct contained within the liver and spreading from there to the liver which is in direct contact.

    Thanks for the advice on the PET scan. The surgeon said that their policy is a CT scan every 6 months. Maybe this is a Medicare thing. I’ll ask the oncologist about the PET scan.

    Right now my wife is scheduled to get GemCis for 4 months on a 21 day cycle, the amounts being the same as used in the Phase III study, and radiation with 5FU for 5 weeks, 5 days a week. So, as you suggest, what I’m trying to do is research what we can do to extend the recurrence time. I’ve read a lot of the published studies and I can’t find the answer there, so I’m trying to research the members of this foundation to document their experience. So, far I’ve got about 50 on the spreadsheet, but unfortunately, only 1 of the 50 comes close to my wife’s condition. I thought you might be a candidate because of the Stage IIB you reported. The report I had said Stage IIB for bile duct cancer indicated the cancer had spread to nearby lymph nodes in addition to other factors.

    Percy, thank you for your kind remarks about my contribution to the board. Eli and I are both engineers, and I think it is in our nature to be detailed oriented. I’m 76, retired when I was 57, and most of my career as an electrical engineer was supporting NASA on the Saturn/Apollo “moon” program, the Space Shuttle, and the International Space Station. After the moon landing in 1969, people said, “If we can put men on the moon, then we should be able to _____ (fill in the blank).” Perhaps this should also apply to finding a cure for this horrible disease.

    Bruce

    #67070
    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi,
    Folfirinox as you know consist of leucovorin+5FU+irinotecan+oxaliplatin; 5FU irinotecan and oxaliplatin all three can cause rash( esp. irinotecan =13%) and all three list hyperbilirubinemia(irinotecan=83%,oxaliplatin=13%,5FU=7%)
    as side effect which can cause itching;5FU can also causes skin irritation;both 5FU and irinotecan have pruritus as side effect;apart from that neuropathy too.

    Neurontin can be prescribed by your doctor for nerve pain if s/he agree ;
    Benadryl cream and other OTC cream like hydrocortisone 1% cream for itching can also be used. Lainy as well as other caregivers on this board mentioned another cream(I forgot the name)which is very good for the rash too.
    BTW, your regimen dose not include “targeted agents” like sorafenib or erlotinib or cetuximab,therefore there is NO relationship between “the worse the side effect of the rash is ,the more effective of the medication will be.”
    God bless.

    #66947

    In reply to: So frustrated

    dmj4ctj
    Member

    Thanks for your responses. I think we’re getting a bit of a handle on it. The oncologist told him to increase dose of Zofran. He had a dose of Oxali/5FU this week and ironically, he’s vomiting less than usual. Could be those IV anti-emetics they give prior to chemo. I figure it must be the disease that’s causing it. It sure is a bad actor :(

    #67064
    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi, Eli,
    I understand it is for rectal cancer and preoperative; May be I should clarify more . (and it is nothing to do with the above citation since I look at a lot of article today.)
    That is I should add “lately I have seen a lot of 5FU infusion pump used (48hr) instead of 5FU infusions for a few hours at the chemotherapy treatment center for colon and other cancers in the place I work;I have also read about Xeloda being used in chemo-radiation instead of 5FU.” But of course I do not know whether it is for CCA or not.

    God bless.

    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi, everyone,

    http://www.oncologystat.com/viewpoints/commentary/Ten_Practice_Changes_I_Will_Make_After_Attending_ASCO.html

    read the 1st paragraph about switching 5fu infusion to oral capecitabine.
    read #5,7,and 8 if you are short of time.

    God bless.

    #7680
    pcl1029
    Member
    #7664
    dmj4ctj
    Member

    Eating has started to be an anxiety producing ordeal for both of us. Chris is hungry almost all of the time, but he’s nauseated too. He’s keeping very little food down and we’re getting scared. He’s lost 15 lbs. so far. He takes Zofran and Reglan every day, as well as Ativan. Seems like additional Ativan daily has started to help a little, but with a Fentanyl patch on and additional oxycodone for breakthrough pain, he’s frequently out of it. I was hoping he would get used to the sedating effects and get back to his normal “alert” self, but not so far. Any helpful hints would be most appreciated. BTW, we’re not even sure why this is happening so frequently, as his bilirubin is down to 3. When he was in the 8-12 range, he wasn’t like this. The oxaliplatin/5FU combo brought it down nicely. He’s been on it for a couple months so I don’t think the chemo is the culprit. He’s having weekly paracenteses for approx. 4-5 liters each time and he feels much better afterwards, but still vomits, so the fullness isn’t the problem. So what is it???

    #66751
    Eli
    Spectator

    Hi lostandscared,

    I’m in Ottawa.

    My wife got diagnosed with extrahepatic cholangiocarcinoma in April 2011 at the age of 44. She had Whipple surgery in July 2011, followed by 2 months of 5FU chemo-radiation and 4 months of Gemcitabine/Cisplatin chemo. She is currently in remission. She received all her treatments at The Ottawa Hospital.

    Here’s how she got diagnosed:

    She went to ER with unbearable abdominal pain in the upper right quadrant. She wasn’t visibly jaundiced. Ultrasound showed dilatation of the common bile duct. ERCP found a tight stricture in the intra-pancreatic portion of the CBD. The brushing biopsy came back as suspicious for adenocarcinoma. CT and MRI ruled out pancreatic cancer. EUS was the final test that led to surgery; EUS was highly suggestive of cholangiocarcinoma. The final pathology report done after Whipple confirmed the dx. Extrahepatic CC, stage IIB (T3/N1/M0), 2 positive nodes out of 15, microscopically positive margins.

    Medical history prior to cancer:

    My wife had recurrent, intermittent digestive issues for as long as I remember (20 years). She had trouble digesting fatty foods, raw fruits and veggies. I know she mentioned her digestive issues to our family doctor on a few occasions. The GP never ordered any tests or investigations. To be fair, I don’t think my wife was persistent enough in her complaints (she is not the type who complains about minor irritants). Our surgeon told us that digestive issues are very common in the general population; the fact my wife had them doesn’t mean they caused her cancer.

    Lostandscared, I’m very sorry you had to find us. The best tip I can give you is to live one day at a time and not look too far ahead.

    My best wishes to you and your boyfriend.

    #66653
    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi,
    Gemcitabine 1000-1250mg/m2+ cisplatin 25 mg/m2 on day one and day 8 and then off for one week is the standard protocol as one cycle( 21 days) for CCA.
    GEMOX, GEMCAP, FOLFOX are other choices too. Adjustments of dosages are quite common because of the lab and scan results.
    5FU,for unknown reasons, seems to have better results when use in extra hepatic CCA than intrahepatic. ( from literature review ,uptodate.com)
    By you must discuss each one with your doctor based on efficacy and side effects after you study all the regimens.
    God bless.

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