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  • #19809
    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi,
    tomorrow, ask the oncologist to see whether he agrees to increase the Lasix dose to 40mg. Lasix should start to work within a day or two in normal circumstances .
    If the oncologist ONLY ,( again I emphasize the word ONLY) wants to use 5FU IV for your mom.; please ask him whether your mom can have the oral form of 5FU called Xeloda at home. it is much easier and convenient for your mom. If he.she says no, make sure ask why?
    I would love to hear the answer.
    God bless.

    #7350
    jujubear
    Member

    Hello. I wanted to give you an update on my mother, and welcome any advice/comments! My mother was diagnosed with bile duct cancer in Feb of 2012. She started her treatment of chemo gemzar in the last week of march 2012 until the end of august 2012. She got her CT scan done in the last week Aug 2012. At her follow up with the Dr, he let us know that the gemzar looked to working at shrinking her tumor in the beginning 2 months, then it looks to not work at shrinking it towards the months to follow. He gave us 3 choices and recommended one of them.
    The first is to combine gemzar with cisplan. He does not recommend this because my mother is not in her stronger state and he says it takes a lot out of the older patients, leaving them bedridden.

    The second choice was to try 5FU, which he recommended. He did tell us that it is an older form, but they do show that it works it some patients to fight this cancer. Side affects were similar to gemzar, with added sore mouth and may cause diarrhea.

    The third was to stop treatment all together. For my mother, this was not an option, so it wasn’t discussed further! She is a fighter, for sure! :)

    Back in June 2012, she took a trip to Korea to meet with a well known doctor who performed laser surgery to patients with bile duct cancer. After doing tests and scans and also looking her chart, he was unable to do the procedure on her because of her tumor location. Her tumor is located by where all her blood vessels are and all the doctors have said that it’s in a bad spot…
    After returning, she developed a bloated abdomen, and swollen feet. The Dr prescribed her a diuretic spiiralltic ( sorry for the wrong spelling) and it worked after 2 weeks. But after her meds were finished her salt levels went down, and they said that she will not be given that anymore.
    After about two weeks ( which is now) she developed the same bloated abdomen and swollen feet. The dr prescribed lasix of 1/2 pill ( 10 mg). After about 3 days, we saw that she was looking worse, so I contacted the dr and he said to increase the dose to another 1/2 pill. Saturday will be one week of taking the prescription, but no signs of her getting relief. Anyone know how long it usually take for it to work?
    Also, tomorrow she is supposed to start her first treatment of 5FU, but she is not sure she can even make it there… Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks.

    #7244
    dmj4ctj
    Member

    Chris started on Oxilaplatin/5FU 2 weeks ago and he started 2nd dose today. Last week his bilirubin dropped from 8.4 on day 1 of cycle to 6.1 on day 8. This past week, we have noticed that he has become more jaundiced and found out today that it has gone up to 10.2, but he still received chemo today and will get another dose tomorrow. Doctor halved his dose of 5FU in response to this. He is now scheduled to have a CT scan next Tuesday.
    If this scan shows that chemo is not working, plan is to do chemoembolization. Can anyone tell us what their experience with this procedure is? Are the results immediate? How much pain is there afterwards? Can more than 1 of these be done? What about further systemic chemo?
    Any information would be greatly appreciated!
    Thanks,
    Dianne

    #63696
    lisacraine
    Spectator

    I was diagnosed in September 2010. I had a liver resection removing 70% of my liver followed by six months of 5FU and lucavorin. Three months later I developed two new tumors so I had another liver resection removing 35% of my liver followed by 3 months of Gemzar. They stopped the Gemzar because I had developed two new tumors on Gemzar. I then had steriotactic radiation which destroyed both of the tumors. At the nextk scan I had developed one new tumor and an area of concern so I was put on Cisplatin and 5FU for three months followed by steriotactic radiation. I am off chemo till my scan on October 5th to see if the radiation was successful. If any new tumors have developed I will be considered for a clinical trial at The Cleveland Clinic.

    #63701

    In reply to: Chemo

    pamela
    Spectator

    From our experience with Gemzar, my daughter got it once every two weeks. She never had it by itself though. She had it with Cisplatin and 5FU and then just with 5FU.

    lisacraine
    Spectator

    We met with the oncologist this week to see what the next game plan is going to be. I finished steriotactic radiation two weeks ago but it is too soon to tell if it worked. Prior to radiation I had three months of Cisplatin and 5FU. He said the chemo regimen didn’t appear to be doing anything to the tumors so he suggested that we stay off chemo until I have a CAT scan on October 5th. I am really nervous about doing nothing to fight this disease till then. He said my body has been though a lot and this would be a good healing time. He said in October if there is new tumor growth then I would probably enter a clinical trial that uses biological agents or try a different chemo combo. Isn’t it strange that as much as we don’t want chemo…we do want it!

    #63570
    kristina916
    Spectator

    Hi LeeAnn,

    My mom (age 54) has started the Folfirinox trial at University of Chicago this summer. I don’t believe we have had any problems with our insurance (BCBS). She has just received her 4th treatment and we will be doing our first scans on Monday. Mom had to get the port, which was a quick procedure- but she still does not like it at all. The first treatment was the absolute worst, but the ones after have been pretty good. After reading on here and elsewhere about people’s reactions, I have seen that everybody is different. Her main side effects are tiredness, mouth sores (make sure to get a prescription rinse to prevent and help when they pop up), leg cramps and her hair has started thinning some. Many people have severe diarrhea, luckily she pops an Immodium on the first episode and it subsides quickly. She had missed a couple treatment days due to low white blood cell count and last week she had developed a rare infection from the biliary tree, so she was hospitalized for a bit to make sure things were ok. Some advice I can offer, the doc had prescribed anti-nausea meds on days 1-3 of chemo (until the 5FU pump was disconnected) but we found taking the Zofran and other meds through day 5 was much better for her (I think that is what made the 1st treatment so crappy!). She has been eating great and her energy level is through the roof- she takes her pump and goes on her daily power walks nearly every day. She’s a total warrior!

    I wish you all the best and pray things go well for you.

    Kristina

    #7227
    dmj4ctj
    Member

    Maybe you guys can help me understand a few things, our doctor is a very nice guy but challenging to keep around to answer questions and honestly, most of these questions occur to me later. I’ve read on this board that some doctors don’t do chemo when a patient’s bilirubin is elevated. Last week my husband started Oxiliplatin/5FU when he was obviously jaundiced and his bili was 8.4. Halfway through the treatment the nurse reported his labwork to us and told us that the doctor was cutting the dose of 5FU by half (he was still receiving the OX at the time). Thank God he wasn’t denied chemo that day, I think he would have gone mad! He was miserable. 1 week later, his bili is down to 6.1 and he feels much better. What would have been the point to withhold tx.? I know a lot of people think that stents are the answer in this situation, but we’ve been told by every doctor we’ve talked to that they are not an option for him due to the location of the blockages.
    Second question is that we asked the doctor that if significant shrinkage occurs, could surgery be an option? He said no, that if that were possible, we would have gone there first. That’s not what I’ve been seeing here. Some people do seem to become candidates for surgery after other treatments. Do you think that this is just a difference in philosophy? I told Chris that I’ll bet that if we went to Pgh. (we’re near there a lot visiting family) we could find a surgeon willing to do surgery. He says he’s sure I’m right, as this is what surgeons do, but to what end?
    Any thoughts??

    #63480
    wallsm1
    Spectator

    Pam,

    Maybe it is a cumulative effect. Lauren has been on chemo for a while and I would think the longer you are on it, the harder it is on you.
    If you really do think it is the Xeloda, maybe talk to the onc about switching her back to 5fu? If I remember correctly, I think your Dr prescribed Xeloda instead of 5fu to be easier on you guys so you don’t have to do as much driving. If it is not easier on Lauren, then maybe you could switch back?
    How is her Hemoglobin/Hematocrit? If she is anemic that could contribute to fatigue as well.

    Take care.

    Susie

    #63479
    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi,
    You are correct in the sense for easy understanding of their different pharmacokinetics.
    Xeloda metabolized in the liver mainly; Depending on the dose,5FU has linear and non-linear distribution of the drug through out the body tissues including the liver and therefore the amount goes through the liver are different and secondary to the side effects of fatigue.anorexia.

    The major side effect(for myself) is fatigue; I can nap for 3-4hours in the afternoon and have to nap for 1-2 hours after a days of work before dinner.I always, if I can ,take a 30 min nap at lunch time while I am working. I try to go to bed around 9pm.
    And I do agree that your daughter needs oxaliplatin and 5FU( orXeloda-the same but in oral form) since without the platium group of chemotherapy agents the tumor seems coming back. Oxaliplatin is less toxic than cisplatin but it is still belong to the platium family,that means still have the potential side effects belong to that family.
    God bless.

    #63439

    In reply to: New to Chemo

    dmj4ctj
    Member

    I know it can be frustrating when the doctors are unable to stent. We got 3 different opinions on this and apparently when the blockages are too high in the liver, the stents won’t help. One doctor told us that it’s better not to stent because it increases the risk of liver infection. My husband’s bili was 3, and the chemo brought it down nicely (gemzar/xeloda). Unfortunately, it has stopped working and now his bili is up to 4.6 and he is jaundiced (not too itchy luckily). Anyway, he just got a port put in yesterday, and he will begin oxiliplatin/5FU on Monday, so hopefully the tumor(s) will start shrinking again, and he will begin feeling better.
    Try not to worry too much, I know it can be really hard not to.
    Dianne

    #58184

    In reply to: port for chemo

    jathy1125
    Spectator

    LeeAnn-Why aren’t all 3 one option?? I had gemcidabene, 5FU, oral chemo and radiation all in one clinical trial. I am 3 years cancer free! I am not sure where you are bieng treated but you might talk to another oncologist for more info and another opinion.
    Lots of prayers there is HOPE-Cathy

    #7166

    Dear all,

    I’ve written before, but not frequently so I will tell you a bit about our case:

    My husband was diagnosed at 40 with CC, sent to Mayo Clinic for treatment
    Accepted into the LT program and completed all of the standard pre-transplant regimens (brachy, 5FU, etc). At LT (41), there was a lot of cancer, deeper than they would’ve liked so to get a clean margin, they did a whipple. He recovered really well from both LT and whipple.

    At the 8 month post LT appointment (age 42), it was shown that his CA19-9 level and the CT that the tumor had returned to the BT and in the liver, I think. The tumor is around the portal vein, etc. and was already starting to push on this and cause slight blockage of blood flow. He was doing less well at this point in time, but still functioning at about 50% or so.

    Mayo said the next treatment would be chemo, if he wanted it, but that time was most likely limited (they did not want to put a time frame on his life, of course). “Less than a year” was mentioned, but so was 6 months… it wasn’t clear, plus we all know these are just stats.

    They did not do a PET scan, only a chest CT- which showed no tumors. No other scans have been done to date.

    We opted for chemo in our home city, 4 hours from Mayo for logistics, etc. He is on a Gem/Cis combo (standard) where he gets a treatment once a week for two weeks and then has a rest week (1 cycle) and then starts again for cycle 2. After his 2nd Cycle 1 treatment, his H/H was so low, he ended up in the hospital needing transfusions and his WBC was also danger low. Once CBCs started up, he was released.

    Chemo was halted for an extra week of rest but then resumed. He just finished the 2nd treatment of round 2 last Friday.

    His CBCs are all very low, as before, but his kidney, liver, bili are all doing very well. BP, pulse all that is fine. No temps this time. Aside from the neutropenia, you’d think he was a healthy guy…until you look at him…

    We are waiting for the next doctor appointment to have the tumor marker results and maybe a scan (if results are positive)… in the mean time I am really questioning the benefit of the chemo right now (at this stage).

    Since begining the chemo he has gone from overall health of 50% to about 10% (IMHO) in a rapid amount of time. He sleeps most of the time and when not sleeping, he has a blank and vacant stare that he says he cannot control- he is in an “unexplainable fog” in his words. He still eats well and BM are regular, but he does have constant diarreah (sp). He feels all that he loves to do has been taken from him. He has had problems with sight loss and given systane to help rehydrate. He drinks lots of water. TV, books, playing with our son, talking… have all stoppped…. he’s like a ghost walking around the house, and it’s so hot outside he cannot go out.

    I am so worried about him and wonder what could be causing this other than the chemo (e.g. other tumors they haven’t found).

    I am mad about the chemo treatment because it’s put him in a stupor and his quality of life is in the toilet.

    I feel like we are just “waiting for the end” because it has to be better than this, and then I feel guilty.

    Basically, everyone feels lousy- sad, depressed, hopeless, and I don’t know what to do to break the cycle.

    For those of you that have gotten to this stage during treatments… any advice? Any pearls of wisdom? Actually, it helped me just to share this with others.

    Thanks for reading.
    Jenny

    #63242
    lisacraine
    Spectator

    Shel,
    I get the hiccups a lot since I have been on Cisplatin and 5FU. I agree with Pam that we use one therapy till it doesn’t work and then move onto another…never giving up hope….hope gives me peace and I trust that God will always take care of me.
    Lisa

    #63241
    pamela
    Spectator

    Hi shel,

    I feel like we have a lot in common. My daughter, Lauren has CC. We also travel to U of M for her treatments and doctors. Who are your husband’s doctors? Lauren’s oncologist is Dr. Zalupski. Her surgeon is Dr. Sonnenday. She was diagnosed with CC Aug. 29, 2011. She did go through a liver biopsy and said she will never have another one because it was so painful. She started out on Gem/Cis and also another drug called 5FU. She had a lot of shrinkage at first. Then it slowed down each time. Her doctor eliminated the Cisplatin after a long time because it is really hard on the kidneys. I don’t think any chemo works forever. You just use it until it doesn’t work and try something else. Lauren had radioembolization in May and we had huge hopes. It seems by the scans that it did not work and she has another 4cm. tumor. Lauren and I both think this is not a tumor and just a big dead spot from the procedure. Anyway, she is now on Xeloda and Oxaliplatin. She continues to fight and will never give up. She is only 26 and has a lot of living left to do!! I hope the Gem/Cis combo works for your husband. Lauren has been lucky with all of her chemos. She gets tired for a while, but bounces back fairly quickly. I know a lot of people have a hard time with Cisplatin. It is a tough one to take. Lauren did have to miss a few chemos because Cisplatin makes platelets take a nose dive in some people. But, a weeks rest usually brought them back up. It is hard to miss a chemo though. You worry about tumor growth when you can’t get it. I am sorry you had some probs at U of M. We have had a few minor things with nurses in the main hospital, but have had nothing but the best care in the Cancer Center. We absolutely love Dr. Z and Dr. S and feel they are doing everything possible to help Lauren to the fullest. I wish you nothing but the best and hope to hear from you again. Feel free to ask me anything. I am here to help.

    Love, -Pam

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