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  • #65532

    In reply to: New Member

    ajacquay
    Spectator

    We visited the surgeon today to get the results of Dad’s PET Scan….some good news and some bad news. The good news is that its seems the pancreas is not involved…it did not light up on the scan. The bad news is we still don’t really know where the cancer is coming from. The PET Scan also showed that a couple of the lymph nodes may be affected. There was also an area of concern found on one of his vertebrae (L4)…..a bone scan may be ordered in the near future. Tomorrow morning Dad will have is life port put in. Friday morning he will have an endoscopy and a colonoscopy, although the surgeon and the oncologist both seem to think there will be nothing found with either of those. The oncologist doing the chemo will start with gemcitabine and cisplatin (on Tuesday). We have been told that because the tumor is so large and because it is wrapped around the portal vein, that even if chemo does shrink the tumor, removal of the tumor and/or a liver transplant is not an option. I think we are going to be sending records to UVA and/or MD Anderson…..my dad’s words today “we’re going to lick this thing one way or another. Out damn cancer, OUT.” He is definately ready for a fight!!
    Any information anyone can share about any of the cancer treatment centers would be greatly appreciated!

    #65220
    sdcarlson89
    Member

    Tina,

    I just wanted to pop in and say hi. My name is Darla and we have many things in common. I am 48 years old I have stage 4 cc and it is also inoperable. I have four children 23,22,20 and 13 and two grand babies that are 4 and 3 months.

    I was diagnosed in August and am also going through gemcitabine and cisplatin right now. I had two series of (6 weeks) and I go in for another cat scan to check for shrinkage on Thursday.

    I also found that after being told the diagnosis you become very overwhelmed, but also I have found so much hope and so many people and it seems like you go through grieving and so many mixed emotions. I think it is wonderful that you have a supportive husband and family to help you through this!! That makes all the difference in the world. My husband was by my side all the way through the hospitalization and all chemo treatments thus far.

    Keep your chin up and know that there is so much hope out there. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

    God Bless you,

    Darla

    #7433
    srpssis1
    Member

    My sister, who turned 56 last Saturday was diagnosed with cc on Aug 1. She passed out at home and called 911. She has been through so much already.She has only been at home for 3-4 days at a time since the diagnosis.She has an intrapatic tumor and, an extraptic tumor. The intrapatic tumor has artery and vessel involvement so is not a candidate for surgery at this time. The plan is for chemo with gemcitabine and cisplatin 2 x month for 2 months , then scan, if tumor shrinks,then surgery, if not, oral chemo and radation. The problem is that she can’t get her numbers right for chemo. She has two billary drains, one on her side, the other upper abdomen. She has experienced every symptom, every complication I have read about and today chemo cancelled for the 5th time due to high bilirubin #s . I don’t know how to help her at this point. She is divorced, kids out on their on . One lives very far away, the other goes to school and works. She has no health insurance but I am amazed at how our hospital has provided. Medicaid has not been approved yet, but we are hopeful. I am sure ya’ll are curious about her Doc’s. As a woman of faith I know that God went before us in all of this because going through the ER my sister could have gotten any oncologist but she got the Doc that had just come from working with Dr. Melanie Thomas ( from MD anderson) at the MUSC( med univ of sc) After the diagnosis Dr. Wells got my sister in at MUSC with Dr. David Cole ( surgeon) and of course Dr. Thomas.

    #7432
    tmrogals
    Member

    Hi, my name is Tina. I was diagnosed on September 7th. I work at Johns Hopkins and left work early on September 5th to see my PCP due to increasingly darker urine over 5 days and pale/white stools for two days.

    Intermittently over the last several months, I had pain in the upper right abdomen just under my rib cage. I had an ultrasound in January, a colonoscopy and endoscopy to followup on colon polyps in February, but no sign of this terrible disease. I kept thinking it was my gall bladder. I was diagnosed with Chron’s Disease as a teenager which I have been told is one of only four potential precursors for this disease.

    Late in the afternoon on September 5th, the PCP did a urine stick test and said I was mostly likely having some kind of liver problem and I should go to the ER. I returned Hopkins to the ER and after a 16 hour experience which included ultrasound and CT with contrast, I was admitted. I had an ERCP on the 7th, but the internal medicine team at Hopkins told me the news just before going down for the ERCP. The doc said it’s one of two kinds of cancer and neither are good. CC was the eventual diagnosis confirmed by cytology brushings and FNA of regional lymph nodes. I believe I am staged at 3C as I have regional lymph node involvement as well as the tumor is encasing a vein. I also have a portal vein thrombosis. PET found no other obvious tumor sites.

    I start chemo tomorrow at Johns Hopkins using the usual Gemcitabine and Cisplatin. The plan is to do three rounds and then rescan to see if there has been an effect on the tumor. I’m considered inoperable due to the location of the tumor (“very far down the tract”) and the vein/artery involvement.

    I have a very loving and supportive husband and family who are currently holding me together. My husband and I have three children ages 18, 12 and 10. I am 46 years old. I have spent the last three and half weeks being completely overwhelmed by the news. It’s been hard to be positive.

    Thanks for listening,

    Tina

    #64566

    In reply to: my mom

    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi,
    Cancer patients receiving chemotherapy have an increased risk of developing cardiovascular complications, and the risk is even higher if there is a known history of heart diseases.–from uptodate.com.

    5fu,cisplatin both have cardiotoxicity, so does gemcitabine.
    God bless.

    #64504

    In reply to: Hi! new to this site

    soimalb
    Member

    Dear Leslie,

    Wellcome. I am, also like you, a new member of this family here.
    My husband, Guy (55 years old), was receiving radioembolisation with the product Yttrium 90 microspheres (SIRT) this year in january. His situation on that time was: primary tumor of about 6 cm diameter and a secondary very small tumor – both stable – and no matastasis. This result was achieved durring the treatment with Gemcitabine/ Cisplatin. But… Is always a “but”. So, but our pr. dr. was saying to us that it is the time to try SIRT because the Gem/Cis seemed to not work anymore and Guy is at this stage a good candidate for SIRT. So we did it. After SIRT, at the begining of March this year we had the MRI scanning and it showed that SIRT didn’t work what so ever so he was puted on treatment with 5 – FU Leucovorin ( he had 6 times transfusions of this regimen)- wich also didn’t work at all. Now, he is in a very poor state and he is in the hospital with severe anemia and also ascites and also a Cellulitis infection. His bone marrow may be also affected, cause it seems that his anemia is getting worst and worst, day by day.

    But what it is more important for you from my story here is that – FOR MY HUSBAND – radioembolization didn’t work at all and also caused damage of the near healty tissues, fallowed by liquage and building up fluid. Our team of proffesors were arriving, on this fryday – and they validated a report- to the conclusion that SIRT in january, combined with tumor progression after SIRT and 5-FU not working, is the cause of the poor state in wich Guy is today.

    But, please, remember that this experience of ours it is just ours and for your husband may work. Anyway, a second opinion before deciding what to do i will recomand with all my heart, because i am really sorry now that i didn’t asked.

    With alot of hope for you,
    Liliana from Belgium

    PS: Please allowe me that this is also an update in my Guy’s case also for everyone in our family here.

    God bless you all

    #7352
    artofscience
    Spectator

    Hi all.
    My name is Art and I have been diagnosed last month with late stage CC. Unfortunately the primary which blocked only partially the lower Biliary branch left no noticeable symptoms until a secondary grew big enough to cause a problem for my GI Doc in a routine colonoscopy. He got suspicious and called for a CT scan which lead to the diagnosis. Unfortunately the doctors claim that there may not be symptoms until late stages occur. More on this in another topic later.

    A little about myself. I’m a 64 year old Physicist living in the LA area of southern California. I am fortunate to have a great wife and two wonderful sons a daugther in law and two grand chiildren. My sister and nieces and a bevy of friends provide a constant stream of concern and help.

    I have been to City of Hope, UC Irvine Chao Cancer Center and I am being treated at a local Oncology group with connections to UCLA. I have just had my second chemo which is the only course of treatment open to me. The components are Gemcitabine (Gemzar) and Cisplatin.

    In the mean time tissue samples have been sent to the UCI/Harvard/MassGen study to search for structural abnormalities in the tumor genetics. A chinese study originally estimated that 8.5% of the CC sufferers have the gene type abnormality of the study. Subsequent American studies now ongoing seem to show a lower occurance rate of ~2%. The good news is anyone with this gene marker may be completely controllable with an oral administered drug. It takes 1 month for analysis of samples, 1 month to clear out toxins from chemo and then treatment can begin. The tissue type they are inspecting is an adenocarcinoma which is another selection element. The basis of the study is that this type of cancer is genetically identical to certain lung cancers that have been treated successfully with the drug of this study.

    Since chances are slim for anyone to be an element of this group recognized therapies are started at once.

    More on other topics where appropriate.
    But again a hello to all.

    Art

    #64136
    soimalb
    Member

    Oh,

    Thank you, Lainy, for your quick reply. God, I always loved the americans … people of action. I am the same, no time to loose.

    For short, because I am so tired now, walking kilometers per day in this Leuven hospital.

    The CC it is iside the liver tubes, perihilar like they say. At the time of diagnose, the primary tumor was 17 cm large, with hepatomegaly and splenomegaly and metastasis to the hepatic lymphnodes around the liver and to the thymus. There were no metastasis to the liver or other organs then those that i mentioned. They gave to him 3 months to live, without treatment.

    Now the treatment, very short: 1.Gemcitabine/Cisplatin; 2. SIRT with Yttrium 90 spheres; 3. 5-FU/Leucovorin; 4. one time FOLFOX 6.
    He supported everithing magnificent I can say, considering. He had some side effects but nothing serious. Just tiredness and a bit of loss of concentration.

    Now, the Gem/Cis worked fantastic. No metastasis anywhere, prymary tumor reduces to 6 cm. But, i forgot to meansion a thrombose in the portal vein, but not to worry.

    After, SIRT and 5-FU leucovorin didn’t work at all. More than that, some other litle tumors appeared in the liver (3 of 1 cm each of them).

    In this condition, they had to start imediately FOLFOX 6 – this time under supevision and hospitalisation. It did very good. The last MRI was validated 3 days ago and it shows stability of the tumors and even a slight shrinking of all of them.

    But now we are fighting with another serious thing – ANEMIA DUE TO CHEMOTHERAPHY. It is very severe – hemoglobyn today was 7,2. Thay cannot continue with chemo. When they gave him FOLFOX 6 the hemoglobin was under 9, but they did it together with blood transfusion 3 x 250 ml and one long term EPO. Now they want to send Guy at home for recovery of anemia and then an MRI at the begining of October , already programed. Now i am scared to get out from the hospital at home.

    Ok i wrote already so much, i didn’t realise.
    What do you think until now Lainy?

    Should i be scared?

    I am not so easy scared and i am a powerfull and strong woman, it is just a tought.
    I would like also to start a forum about ANEMIA DUE TO CHEMOTHERAPHY, because it seems that is very serious and alot of pacients with long term chemo will have, and they are not given treatment for it. And that it is very dangerous and can put in jeopardy all those wich have still chances to survive this illness.

    Oh, i am tired, but so happy to finally be with you people. Who can understand you the best?

    Thank you for your attention,
    I embrace you all with love and care, Liliana

    #63826
    Eli
    Spectator

    Hi Genevieve,

    Here are my thoughts.

    1. Did your oncologist explain why you have to make the choice between Gemcitabine and Capecitabine? Why not do both at the same time?

    Take a look at this link:

    Biliary Tract Cancer Treatment Protocols
    http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/2003836-overview

    Gem/Cap protocol is an acceptable regimen for good performance status patients.

    Also take a look at NCCN Treatment Guidelines, the current standard of care in the US. You might need to register to open the PDF:

    http://www.nccn.org/professionals/physician_gls/pdf/hepatobiliary.pdf

    Page 22 (INTRA-2), footnote i. Gem/Cap is listed as one of the protocols that can be used in the adjuvant setting.

    2. Have you discussed Gemcitabine/Cisplatin protocol with your oncologist? Gem/Cis improves survival in the unresected/metastatic cases, compared to Gem alone. As you probably know, this was proven in a large randomized Phase 3 trial done in the UK (ABC-02 trial). It’s reasonable to extrapolate these results to the adjuvant setting.

    3. BILCAP trial results are not out yet. In any case, I don’t see how BILCAP trial can help you to make the choice between Gemcitabine and Capecitabine.

    BILCAP trial tests Capecitabine vs. no treatment at all. The trial might help to establish Capecitabine as the standard of care in the resected cases. However, it’s not going to tell us anything about relative merits of Gemcitabine vs. Capecitabine. They chose to test Capecitabine because it’s an oral chemo. Patients take it at home. This is much easier on the patients after surgery… no need to travel to the hospital to receive IV. But, it’s still possible that Gemcitabine is better overall.

    Hope this helps and good luck!

    Eli

    #63312
    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi,
    I think it is inappropriate for me,just a patient and not a doctor, to recommend anything at all with regard to treatment plans. This is the job of the oncologist and I think you will agree with me on that.
    Let me answer in this way.
    Gemox( gemcitabine+ oxaliplatin) is a regimen that contains a 3rd generation of platium analog–oxaliplatin, a widely used platium containing chemotherapy agent. Gemox is better tolerated than cisplatin in general . Individual difference does exist in response to chemotherapy.
    Another regimen Gemzar+Xeloda provides one of the most convenient and effective regimen for CCA patients. Targeted agents can be added later by the oncologist.
    God bless.

    #32423
    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi,
    For chemotherapy , The relatively easy to take without major side effects is capecitabine+ oxaliplatin(CAPOX) . But make sure you understand I am only a patient like you mom and not a doctor. The recommendation should be discuss with your oncologist. But if gemcitabine and CISPLATIN will be prescribed by the oncologist, it will not hurt to ask for the pros and cons of both regimens . The CAPOX is less toxic to the kidney and the hearing function and less hematologic (blood cells) side effects than CISPLATIN ,but gem / CIS is the most commonly prescribed regimen for CCA. As a patient ,between the two, I will choose CAPOX for convenience (capecitabine) is taken by mouth and for the age factor of your mom; gem/cap is also a good choice as well as GEMOX . Doing nothing as you mentioned is not a good idea, for the tumor will keep on growing. Unless the chemotherapy is free and cost you nothing, otherwise my suggestion on the last message to you to go with RFA or IBRT may not be as expensive as you think when you add the cost of each chemotherapy together an d compare to RFA or IMRT one – 2 times treatment .
    God bless.

    #7156

    Topic: Where to now?

    in forum Introductions!
    adanclaudia
    Spectator

    Hello… My name is Claudia and my 76 year old father was diagnosed with cc on January 25, 2012. He was referred to MD Anderson after his liver enzymes were elevated from a cholesterol test and a tumor and lesions were found on the liver with an ultrasound. Upon diagnosis he was informed that he was not a surgical candidate due to the large tumor sitting on the portal vein so we started chemo treatment of gemcitabine and cisplatin. We did 8 rounds and the scans revealed that the large tumor and lesions on the liver were shrinking but the nodules on the lungs were growing. We continued another 8 rounds but this round was a bit more difficult because his platelets were always low. I also have to share that he did so well with no side effects (other than the platelets) of the chemo. The latest set of scans showed that the tumor maintained in size but the lesions were growing and also new ones were forming on both sides of the liver and the lungs. Our doctor decided to change chemo because she felt that the cancer was growing resistant.

    Up until this point, my dad has NO symptoms of the cancer. No fatigue, no jaundice, no pain whatsoever! He has maintained his weight and a well appetite. It’s hard to believe that this is growing inside of him and he has no symptoms. In fact, to this day, my mother believes that the doctors must be wrong because he is fine. I have hope but also have to be realistic with all the lab reports of this horrible cancer.

    The dr recommended changing the chemo to (I hope I get the correct names) leucovorin and oxaliplatin. Well, due to my dad having only medicare, he is responsible for his 20% up front (which I have been paying up until this point and don’t mind at all because I would do anything for my hero). With the new regiment, his portion would cost us 1200 every two weeks in addition to the pump. His chemo doctor recommended that we try xeloda hoping that the cost would be better. It wasn’t. Xeloda would have been 600 every three weeks. I have been referred to numerous agencies that can maybe assist with his co-pays. I have yet to find any agency because I always get this answer, “I’m sorry… We don’t have any funding for that particular cancer.” And the CancerCare Copayment Assistance Foundation told me “We’ve never heard of that type of cancer….” I have grown so frustrated!

    This afternoon I talked to the doctor again as to what our options would be and what would be the best path to take. He recommended going with the original chemo of leucovorin and oxaliplatin and have it done at the county hospital to make payments.

    This is where we are now. I’ve been on this site since January reading up on cc. My dad is the best man you will ever meet. I am glad that I am here and have seen so much support for everyone here.

    I guess my two main questions are…
    Is it rare that dad be considered stage 4 and has been diagnosed for over 6 months with absolutely NO symptoms whatsoever?
    Does anyone know of any agencies that are willing to help with copayments of patients with Medicare only?

    xoxoxo
    Claudia

    #63194

    In reply to: changing chemos

    pcl1029
    Member

    Hi,
    Actually I think your oncologist did his/her homework for your husband’ CCA.
    The Gem/Cis is not an universal treatment of choice for ICCA but it is easier to prescribe since that is appear to be the easiest and most prescribed regimen in CCA.

    But other regimens work as well as Gem/cis and cause much less side effects.
    1.Xeloda( 5FU in oral form) provides patient compliance by the oral route;
    2,Oxaliplatin is much less toxic than cisplatin;unlike cisplatin, oxaliplatin is not associated with significant renal(kidney) or auditory toxicity(tinnitus) and hematological toxicity (blood cells) is usually mild .
    3.Both platium agents will cause nausea and vomiting but usually it will be taking care by the pre-chemotherapy antinausea medications, such as Aloxi,Zofran and Decadron .
    4. Both platium agents will elevate the hepatic enzymes and bilirubin and the same apply to both capecitabine and gemcitabine.

    If the the tumor is “stable”,and nothing else changes significantly, I guess your oncologist wants a consistent (5FU) level from you by asking you to take the Xyloda twice daily after meals.And he/she wants to start use one of the agent from the platium family-oxaliplatin to see whether the result will be better than gemcitabine.
    It is a cautious decision and I like your oncologist. In short, every body can recommend the use of GEM/Cis first,but I think your oncologist does more than just that. May I ask what is his/her name and where he/she works?
    This is just my opinion, the rest is up to you. remember I am just a patient as your husband havine the same ICCA and I am not a doctor.
    God bless.

    jypan
    Member

    My name is Jyoti and I try to keep researching on behalf of my brother who was diagnosed with stage 4 CC in Feb-2012.

    We, who have our old parents back home in India always are worried to receive that dreaded call. And that call did come for me on Mar 1, 2012 very early in the morning. But it was not my parents, it was my elder brother, my only sibling.

    He called from the hospital saying he needed my help in being seen by some one specializing in CC. A day before he himself had found out that he had stage 4 CC and since then he and all of us were on internet trying to figure out what he was dealing with. First, I was in denial, how can it be stage 4 with him not knowing.

    He is a Management Consultant who was traveling at that time and was at a client site, when the client pointed out that he looked pale and yellow. He got home, went to hospital and this is what he found out. There must be some mistake in interpretation. Right? Nope.

    Since then I have been on this site and other similar sites trying to understand more. I am so Thankful to the community and got so much hope and information after reading the posts (Thanks kris00j and others).

    Me and my husband fly back and forth to NY many times to be there for important appointments, and I have had a trip to India for few weeks to support our parents. My sister-in-law who is the primary care giver is overwhelmed, managing his appointments, diet, kid’s studies and activities (kids are in India) and expenses (self-paid medical bills).

    I am trying to help by reading up as much as I can and helping my brother and sister-in-law. I wish I lived closer and be with them more often.

    Anyways coming back to my brother’s case, he managed to see Dr. Fong who he firmly believes can help him within 2 weeks of finding out in mid-march. Dr. Fong referred him to Dr. Kemney for chemo to shrink the tumor such that it becomes resectable.

    Within his first week, due to the alarmingly high levels of Bilirubin, a stent was placed to stop the leakage of bile and from then on his chemo started. He was put on the combination of Gemcitabine and Oxaliplatin and many rounds later, the results gave the first jolt to my very hopeful brother and sister-in-law. The combination was not effective in shrinking the lymph nodes or the tumor.

    Then another combination was tried for few weeks: Gemcitabine and capecitabine(Xeloda). Same results.
    By that time, my brother started feeling worse in terms of pain in the abdomen, his ability to eat and swelling.

    Dr. Fong determined he had to intervene and instead performed “Nano-Knife”, removed few lymph nodes from abdomen area and installed an HAI pump in mid-June. Meanwhile, wary of chemo results, we also went for chemo-sensitivity assay testing on the sample.
    The testing identified that tumor is resistant to Cisplatin, Gemcitabine and 5FU alone as well as in combination.

    The drug identified to work was Gefitinib/combination with Gemcitabine.

    The installed pump has had leakage issues as of now (July 2012), and there have been 2 attempts to fix that with very little success.

    My brother is now on the Gemcitabine and Erbitux. Erbitux was identified by Dr. K in a separate testing.

    We now have to decide whether to proceed with the chemo via the pump despite the leakage or just continue with Erbitux.

    And at this time we are not informed enough to make the call.

    Kris has been kind enough to give some pointers on the forum for HAI pump to ask where the leakage is going. I will also ask on the drug that is being planned via the pump.

    I would update that post on what was decided on pump.
    http://www.cholangiocarcinoma.org/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=5975

    Meanwhile I would love to hear from members any experience on chemo-sensitivity testing- specifically were the drugs still given despite the test showing resistance to them?

    #49540

    In reply to: Liver Infusion Pump?

    jypan
    Member

    Kris,

    My brother, sister-in-law and my husband will meet with both Dr Fong and Dr. Kemeney the coming Monday. I will suggest asking where the leak is going and the possibilities thereafter.

    The chemos that my brother has been on are as follows:
    (1) First combination of: Gemcitabine and Oxaliplatin
    (2) Then Gemcitabine and Capecitabine(Xeloda)
    (3) Now Gemcitabine and Erbitux

    He has had liver embolization, Nano-knife, Gall bladder removal and HAI pump installation – Done by Dr. Fong. So far the main concern has been the effectiveness of chemo in shrinking the tumor and lymph nodes.

    We also sent the samples for chemo sensitivity assay testing to Rational Therapeutics and the result showed resistance to 5FU, Gemcitabine and Cisplatin alone. However there is some synergy when these drugs are given in combination. It would be good if members can also weigh in on this- whether drugs actually do not work if the chemo-sensitivity testing says so. Dr. K was not so keen on that, but Dr. Fong thought with chemo not being effective in shrinking the tumor for last couple of months to allow him to attempt resection, the window of opportunity was shrinking. So he he was fine with chemo sensitivity testing and proceeded with nano knife.

    Now coming to back to chemo, and pump, Thanks for your input, we would ask where is the leak going (Dr Fong), and what chemo is being planned through the pump (Dr. K).

    Because, my brother has not had results he was hoping from chemo, as well as the pump now has a leakage, and now he notices a tumor like growth on his scalp that was tested last week, he has been very very down for months. Also being an international patient from India, away from his kids and in NY for 5 months and paying for his own expenses, has been very hard on him.

    When I visit NY in 10 days, one of the things on my agenda is to show your posts to hopefully pump him up a bit. I will give him your PACMAN idea :-)

    -Jyoti

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