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July 22, 2012 at 3:56 pm #62682lainySpectator
Hi JanetinFL, may I just say that you THINK your husband was stronger but you were taking care of him and have forgotton that you were just as strong, it took 2 to get through this terrible journey! Please know that you would not have changed a thing. How many people in this world would have the strength to get through what we did? That is why I say we have the most loving, caring and smartest people in the world right here. Sometimes I think CC has a brain of it’s own and only picks the best. Your husband sounds like Teddy, so strong and no complaints. They are at peace and we are here with Memories. We need to hang on to the good Memories and honestly in time it does get better. 2 months is not nearly long enough to adjust to your new normal. Don’t feel you need to give advise, only if you can, the important thing is that you show your caring and we all need that. Janet, our boys were strong for us and now we need to be strong and happy for them. It will come when you are ready. Please feel free to come on here anytime to share your feelings and if you need to email that is just fine too.
July 22, 2012 at 3:24 pm #62681janetinflMemberThank you Lainey. I wish I could help all these patients and caregivers. I read and identify, but have no advice. I have been almost 2 months since my husband died. I don’t know what we would have done differently. I sometimes wonder if he had no treatments maybe his quality of life would have been better. Who knows. I just know he was a fighter. We just can’t go back and say “what if”. You must make the best decisions possible and live with them. My husband was so brave. He never complained once. He was the strong one. Now I really feel lost without his strength. I wish I could help all of you out there.
July 22, 2012 at 3:00 pm #62680lainySpectatorHi Janet and so good to see you again! I hope you are doing well on the other side of the world and thanks so much for still helping on the Board. Some of us have been together a long time now and its always good to see your name pop up!
July 22, 2012 at 2:39 pm #62679magicSpectatorSedona is hijacking our cc site for her own purposes.We are all about support,we do not prescribe treatment,we comment only on what specialist doctors have advised….and complementary treatments are exactly that so I do not think our cc site is compatable with Sedonas agenda……
July 21, 2012 at 5:04 pm #62678lainySpectatorOh, thank you Eli, I was up until 1AM thinking about this. I only practice my GUT101
and this all did not set right with me from the beginning. I don’t want to brag but we have such wonderful and intelligent people on this Board.July 21, 2012 at 4:39 pm #62677EliSpectatorLainy, thank you for your words of caution. They are spot on!
Kristin (Sedona) is not a CC patient, nor a caregiver, nor a doctor. Her knowledge of CC is very cursory at best. She strongly recommended Haelan without providing any evidence whatsoever that Haelan is safe to take for CC patients. I find her post reckless and irresponsible.
Memorial Sloan-Kettering has a page on Haelan
http://www.mskcc.org/cancer-care/herb/haelanAccording to MSK, Haelan acts like estrogen in the body. Multiple scientific studies found evidence that CC is an estrogen-sensitive cancer, meaning that estrogen promotes CC growth. Because Haelan acts like estrogen, CC patients should avoid it. It is likely to cause more harm than good.
Here’s a copy of MSK page:
Quote:Consumer InformationHow It Works
Bottom Line: There is no conclusive evidence that Haelan can be used to treat cancer in humans.
Haelan is a dietary supplement obtained by fermentation of soybeans. It contains compounds known as isoflavones that act like estrogen in the body and also have antioxidant activity. Laboratory studies have shown that these compounds slow down the growth of tumor cells. But recent studies indicate that isoflavones may also promote certain breast cancers.
Patients with estrogen receptor-positive breast cancers should avoid Haelan.Purported Uses
* Cancer Treatment
There are no data to support this use.* Allergy
Data are lacking to support the role of Haelan in treating allergies.* Inflammation
There is no scientific evidence to support this use.* AIDS
This use is not backed by scientific data.Research Evidence
No clinical studies have been conducted to evaluate the effects of Haelan in humans.
Do Not Take If
* You have hypersensitivity to soy products
* You are taking tamoxifen for estrogen receptor-positive breast cancer (the isoflavones in Haelan may reduce the effects of tamoxifen)July 21, 2012 at 2:24 pm #62676jypanMemberThanks Lainy understood. We have been very cautious regarding “other” treatments as (1) we are not domain experts in that field (2) we would not know how they may interact with the ongoing chemo (3) how the body will take it and so on…
We are being very cautious such that nothing may potentially reduce the effectively of chemo and many times in past when we asked Dr K about supplements she dismissed them, so I would not go beyond that.
I still Thank Kristin for her suggestion and would research more for my knowledge.
July 21, 2012 at 5:51 am #62675lainySpectatorJYOTI, PLEASE do not suggest to your brother anything other than what the ONC is giving him unless you talk to the ONC first! We always say this when talking about “other” treatments.
July 21, 2012 at 5:11 am #62674sedonaMemberHi Jyoti,
What town does he live in?
I found this information today for everyone suffering with CC or whose family or friends have this disease, http://www.lightparty.com/Health/HaelenReversal.html I hope this helps some people here. Partial excerpt:
Reprintedftom:WELL BEING JOURNAL VOL. 8, NO. 1 JANUARYI FEBRUARY 1999At Hospital Santa Monica. Pelton’s professional opinion of Haelan: “It is phenomenal.” He says that success of the product was very gratifying and recommends it as a nutritional supplement. PERSONAL SUCCESS STORIES In September, 1995, Sherman Sanders was hospitalized tfter experiencing unexplainable chest pains. During exploratory surgery, doctors discovered stage four cholangiocarcinoma. in his liver and gall bladder. The surgeon did not want to further operate, because there was too much cancer. Cancer had grown around the valve between the liver and gall bladder and pinched off the flow of bile, and for comfort, a drain was placed. Mr. Sanders was not expected to leave the hospital, as the estimated life span after diagnosis is one to three months.
His oncologist, in a last effort, decided to try chemotherapy treatments. When the cancer was nonresponsive after~ the second treatment, Sanders notes.”They sent me home to die.” Meanwhile, a family friend heard about Sanders’ condition. She introduced Haelan to Sanders at his family home in LaVernia, Texas. He began drinking a bottle a day the first day, and noticed a great reduction in his chemotherapy1induced nausea, which had not abated since he had left the hospital. The same day, he experienced an increase in appetite and energy level.
He continued to drink a bottle per day, and his blood chemistry improved to such a level that the oncologists decided to resume the chemotherapytreatments. Sanders continued to drink a bottle a day of Haelan in conjunction with chemotherapy. He did not experience any adverse side effects of the chemotherapy. In addition to gaining weight, he found that his hair grew in darker than before. Within six weeks, his doctor reported that the.cancer around the bile duct had shrunk by 50%. With this encouragement, Sanders continued to drink Haelan and take the chemotherapy. In addition to Haelan, he became vegetarian and took venus fly trap, red Clover, CoQ10, liquid oxygen, and pycnogenol, though Sanders attributes his recovery primarily to the Haelan. “I drank a maintenance dose of Haelan for two years.
I switched doctors when we moved, and my new doctor, Clay Skinner, M.D., did not believe me when I told him that I had liver cancer, because no one is known to ever have survived cholangiocarcinoma. He took a biopsy of my liver and had it compared to the biopsysample from my exploratory surgery, and, sure enough, the test confirmed that it really was my liver. I tried to tell him, but now he believes me!” says Sanders. “I wouldn’t be here without Haelan, lots ofprayers, a changed diet and a positive attitude.” In a phone interview, Dr. Skinner stated he had confirmed the original diagnosis from tissue sample analysis and that Sanders was cancer free on a gross and microscopic level in March, 1998. Skinner said, “It Is striking that someone with cholangiocarcinoma is alive. Chemotherapy typically has no effect oii this type of cancer.
Kristin
July 20, 2012 at 8:17 pm #62673jypanMemberKristin,
On air toxicity, he actually consults for manufacturing companies. Visiting steel plants, alloy manufacturers and what not.
He has been in extended projects for such plants consulting on their supply chain. I will find out more if he has been exposed too much in factories and or a specific city.
July 20, 2012 at 8:11 pm #62672sedonaMemberHi Jyoti,
Let’s look at the air and water toxicity exposure. Air travel of course has higher levels than normal of Volatile Organic Solvents. Go to homefacts.com and look up his area for air quality. 10 being the best and 1 the worst.
My situation is jet fuel dumping near a small airport. I am seeing CC in younger people near airports.Tire manufacturing facilities, any kind of industry that is spewing pollution or living next to a freeway.
I am sorry your brother is sick, 48 is young for this disease. I just found another new item that beat CC. I will post it here. I also think seeing Dr Buttar would be prudent.
Blessings,
KristinJuly 20, 2012 at 8:01 pm #62671jypanMemberMy brother (48) was diagnosed with CC this year. He has always been a vegetarian, does not drink or smoke, no liver issues or past history of cancer in family.
He is a Management Consultant for 15+ years and the job requires extensive travel- almost everyday. 50% of travel is international – 10+ hour flight and remaining is domestic.
Other than that, I cannot think of other factors to mention.
July 12, 2012 at 6:04 am #62670lisacraineSpectatorKristen, I would like to talk to you about the blood testing you mention. Please call me if you get a chance.
Thanks, Lisa
330-903-6868July 11, 2012 at 4:12 pm #62669janetinflMemberMy husband had prostrate cancer and died of CC. We were in the airforce for 10 years. Lots of planes. He was also a missile safety officer at Patrick Air Force Base. He said he inspected many dangerous chemicles used by the the shuttle and other missile systems.
July 7, 2012 at 12:45 am #62668sedonaMemberI am sorry to hear this and sorry for everyone who is suffering from ill health here. People generally do not realize how dangerous living near a power plant or an airport is. I was oblivious to both until three years of exposure wore my health down.
I did some checking on Manchester, Ohio, and found that the air quality is very, very poor there. On a scale of 1-10 with 10 best and 1 worst Manchester has an air quality of 1.8! What is really shocking is the Population is only 2,114. You would think this kind of poor air quality is something you would find in LA or Phoenix, not a small town. This scale does not include all the VOC solvents I was tested for.
Living near a super fund site, a brownfield or a polluter makes matters worse, Akron has all of these in high numbers. You can check these facts out on http://www.homefacts.com Manchester is also high in radon. Here is the water report http://www.acrwd.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/2011ccrnews.pdf I do not see a test for hexavalent chromium or any other chemicals. Homefacts used to publish more data on water but I do not see it up any longer or at least not in this area.
The best product I have found to pull metals is called PCA from maxamlab.com, it is an oral clathration product, the metals do not dislodge on the way out and the product has a high affinity for aluminum which is hard to get at. The company had some set backs and had to retract a lot of their literature due to the FDA calling it an unapproved drug. I have used this company for many years and I know how well it works for autism and ADD, vaccine damage etc.
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