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Jeff,
I think you are the one with the big heart, your words are still read I am sure by many everyday. I look through old posts all the time to do research and get answers to questions, and 9 times out of 10, you are on passing out volumes of wisdom.(not to mention hope and humor and so much more) You have helped so many and your assistance keeps on coming! Barbararoma35MemberVincent,
You should also search the internet, there are tons of books on herbal treatments, and nutritional supplements. My dad was/is open to many that I have researched and given him. I am not really in a position to tell you what you should give to your mom, but when my dad was first diagnosed I did tons and tons of research on nutrition, and so I can tell you what i do for my dad. I went out and bought a really good juicer immediately when he was diagnosed. I will give him atleast one(sometimes 2) vegetable juices a day. Many different combos- carrot, beets, broccoli, tiny bit of garlic. This summer, I used most vegetables from the garden. I give him a cup of Essiac tea everyday. (you can look that up on internet), he tollerates that with honey. He doesn’t like to take too many pills, and says they bother his stomach, but I do give him 1 melotonin a day. Also, there has been a lot of studies on a good Attitude(which Lainy and Teddy, who are members of this site, can attest to) We try to keep my dad positive and laughing. He recently told me he loved the show The Odd Couple, so my brother found a whole DVD set of the series, and everyday we pop those in DVD for him. I love to hear him laugh. The good and bad aspect of this cancer is every persons situtation is different, and what has given me hope, is many people have out lived the doctors expections by years.
Thoughts with you
Barbararoma35MemberHi Vincent,
So sorry about your mom, we all on this site know what you are going through. I have few questions: where do you live? what hospital are you being treated at? have you gotten a second opinion? This cancer is so rare, that many hospitals and ONC’s just dont see enough cases, and simply dont now about all the different treatment options. I will add your mother to my prayer list.
Barbararoma35MemberHi Gavin,
Your story rang a bell for me as well. My father’s old business partner lives two doors down from my parents, and although his partner sold out 15 years ago and retired(he is 82), they still maintain that they are best friends, and stop to see eachother everyday, have a glass of wine, talk about the early days of business and the “old country”, as Andy is from Italy as well. Well, when he found out my dad had cancer, and it was rather rare cancer, he did the same as your fathers friend. He stopped visiting, and when my dad went to his house, he didn’t talk much, couldn’t look at my dad. So my mom had talked to Andy’s wife about the situation, and she said Andy felt so guilty. He had made it to 82, he had been a smoker for years, and yet it was my dad who was sick. So maybe it was some kind of “survivors guilt”?. or maybe some people feel guilty, that they are “relieved” it is not them? Or cancer scares them b/c they have heard such tragic cases. I love the phrase “cancer is only a word, not a sentence”. people need to understand that. In my dads friends case, my mother stressed to his wife how important my dads friendship is to her husband, and how he needed to feel normal and talk about normal things…..so his friend came around again, and they are now back to normal, but it took some time. Infact I bumped in to him yesterday on the street, and he knows we go in Monday for my dad result from all the lung tests, and he said, “I am praying for your father that it is nothing but scar tissue, he as to be o.k.” he was all teary eyed. Made me teary eyed. Gavin, if you see your friend again or his dad, by all means, let them know your father Needs his old friend to be the exact same as before, let him know, that is what he can do for him.roma35MemberIve known you a short time on this site, but through your words, I have come to understand the strength of your character. You have made me laugh, cry, think, reflect, forgive, accept….
Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil, for you are with me, your
rod and your staff, they comfort me.
PSALM 23You are in my thoughts and prayers
Barbararoma35Memberthanks for your responses, and yes, I did also did speak to our ONC and he said the procedure “can” cause pain for some time depending on the person and the location of the biopsy site. My dads right side in the rib area is really painful almost a week later. He has to sit in one position and he is on lots of tylenol during the day and vicadin at night….fun Thanksgiving! We were hoping for a decent one, since we go in on the following Monday for his lung results.
Amy, did they discover anything in your moms lungs and is that what is being treated now? Is it my imagination or are lung mets from CC, really rare in this really rare beast of a cancer CC?roma35MemberNo, luckily he doesn’t have any of those side effects. It litterally just hurts in the area they stuck the needle in him. He just cant move much, or caugh, with out shooting pain. Yes, they kept him for three hours to monitor and make sure no internal bleeding, and they did an echocardiogram as well, and all looked good.
Im kinda perturbed b/c our original Oncologist in early September had said that the nodules were just too small to biopsy, and now we are at Cancer Treatment Centers of America, and our current ONC disagreed and went ahead and had this procedure done. Now they have scheduled an endoscopic exam. Why wouldn’t the endoscopic exam be done before going to the pain and sometimes risk of a biopsy? By the way, the day prior to biopsy, he had a catscan and PET test.
Thanksroma35MemberI am so sorry, I just read your posts. God must have a plan for family to have to endure so much pain and suffering.
I have never heard of CC occuring to more than one family member, it didn’t strike me as being heretidary, more like random.
My thoughts and prayers go out to your family, especially your brother at this time.
Barbararoma35MemberKristin,
I know how heartbreaking this cancer can be when it happens to a parent, I especially understand when it happens to a father. My father has always been my hero, he has been my rock for so long, and then suddenly here we were wheeling him out of the hospital in a wheelchair after his resection. 40 lbs lighter, tubes coming out of his abdomon, tired, weak, in lots of pain. It was a really tough period for my whole family, especially my mother. However, it gets better, you learn to appreciate everyday they are here, and I think your father will too. As Lainy said, you have to have hope, that is why so many of us are on this website, if we weren’t we wouldn’t care about finding better treatments. Cancer in the family is overwhelming, but eventually it just becomes part of your world, I once read somewhere, Cancer becomes your new reality. NOt the reality any of us wanted, but our reality non the less. Who wanted to be an expert on Cholangiocarcinoma? None of us I am sure, but unfortunately that is what we are becoming. I’ll keep your dad in my CC prayers.
Barbararoma35MemberHi Kristin,
I dont think you mentioned the type of chemo the ONC’s were discussing with your family. Is it Gemzar? If it is, that is the chemo my father was on, and I will say that he had very little ill side effects. He started chemo a bit weaker, not just from the whipple, but the three times his stent had to be inserted and reinserted due to infections. So he felt a bit of weakness pretty much the 6 months on chemo, but on a scale of 1 to 10, maybe 3 for weakness(10 being the highest) no nausea, and no hair loss. That was his personal experience, it may have or had a different effect on others. In our case, as I said, the jury is out if it worked. Catscan and Pet test tomorrow, so I guess we will know in the next few days what those nodules on his lungs are- the waiting never gets easier.
Barbararoma35MemberHi All,
I think the pill form of Marijuana is called Marinol. However, I was under the impression it was taken to reduce nausea, and increase appetite? Not 100%. I am so glad the treatment seems to be working Jeff. I look forward to your post you seem to combine information, support, spirituality and the all important- humor, when dealing with this not so funny illiness.
Keep on kicking it’s butt, you are giving all of us so much hope.
Barbararoma35MemberHi Kirsten,
Im new to this site as well, but not as new as you to the cancer. My father was diagnosed July 07, like your father, he was able to have the tumor taken out, he had the whipple. He had no spreadage to any other organs, 5 out of 9 lymphnodes, which were clear, no metastasis, clear marginss, so we were pleased. Oncologist remcomended Gemzar for 6 months as a precaution, b/c this particular Oncologist gave us some statistic that CC returns usually within 1 to 4 years. In March of of 08 after my dad finished the Gemzar “suspicious” spots were found on my fathers lungs(2 in left lung, 1 in right). They grew a bit by June, and then a bit more by August.(still under 1 cm) The Radiologist, and Pulminologist seem to think the spots are cancer, and the Oncologist is fairly sure. Pulminologist and Oncologist have determined if it is cancer, they don’t have any treatment for the mets. This particular cancer team does not believe chemo or radiation will eliminate the tumors or slow the growth, and told me he had a survival stat of 4-6 months. We are allready going to another hospital that treats lung mets from CC. WE have had one appointment last Thursday, and go Tuesday for a Cat and Pet test, I will keep you posted. (Lainy is being super positive that the growth are not cancer- I like the way she thinks)
However, on the topic of your dad, all I can say, at the risk of sounding negative, there is no rhyme or reason to this cancer, or to the effect any treatment has on any one person. Why ones persons cancer doesn’t ever return, or returns in 6 months is anyones guess- one Oncologist(liver specialist) once told me, a lot of it is luck. So I will keep you posted, if my fathers cancer returned, it will have returned after gemzar chemo, and in less than 9 months, after a successful whipple.
If you decide against any treatment, I personally would have your father engage in a aggressive health program – from suplements, organic diet, excercise.
I hope I am not sounding negative, it is just that we have has such a rollercoaster ride with this cancer….
I send a note after Tuesday.
Barbararoma35MemberHi Gavin,
Wow, the two most important, but thankless jobs in the world: “mother”, being number 1, and a “teacher” number two, and your mom was both! What a statement of love and devotion both your parents made for you, by sacrificing material possesions, to stay home and be there for you. Your story touches my heart on many fronts, first of all I have two brothers, who I love dearly and do not think are bad prople at all, but they are in denial about our fathers illness. They were there for initial diagnosis, but have never talked to a dr. since. They visit our dad at the hospital on his many stays there, they love and care abouy him, but they cant accept this illness, and refuse to even understand what is going on with his body. I was kind of attributing their behavior to being a “guy”thing, but you Gavin, cancel out that theory. You are an amazing son, that although it pains you, are taking on the role as caretaker for not one, but both parents. They raised a wondeful, loving, responsible son, they should be proud. I, two, have an only child, a son, and my number one goal is to raise my child to have heart.
That is awesome that your dad has old friends “bandmates”
and they now make the effort to come see him. I am sure the laughter is abundant when they get together. What instrument did your dad play?
O.K. off to church, I
ll be sure to get some praying in for the many(unfortunately) people on this site.
Barbararoma35MemberHi Tess,
Just want to say hello and introduce myself as a fellow caregiver for my father. I am new to this site as well, and lack some of the expertise as some of the other members, but from what I have seen and read, every CC case is different. It seems in your fathers case, the symptoms and side effects came on really quick. My father had tons of pain in his the beginning of his diagnosis in his ab area, and it was determined that his stent was infected and causing the pain.(three emergency room visits, that involved changing stent twice) It seems like the key is going to be some treatment to shrink tumor, your dad has to feel up to the chemo. Im not sure where you live, but we are currently going to Cancer Treatment Centers of America in Illinois, there are four locations , and they apply chemo and radiation with much alternative therapy, to alleviate some/all side effects. I know you think your father feels all alone, but the truth is, many battle cancer alone, and your father is not alone, he has you and your siblings and your mom. If I learned anything with this cancer: is dont look at the stats, keep asking questions, every case is different, everyone reacts differently to different therapy. My thoughts and prayers are with you, you are not alone.
Barbararoma35MemberGavin,
My father(Roberto) made so many sacrifices for myself, my brothers and my mother, when he left his country(Italy) and all of his family to come to America for “a better life”. He knew, with only a third grade education he was going to work hard labor the rest of his life to give his family a home and food on the table. So it is a very small sacrifice for me to make to be his ears in this cancer situation that has invaded his body. Although it is painful on my ears some of the words I have to hear doctors utter, I can take the emotional pain, because it is nothing compared to the physical pain these cancer sufferers endure. I can’t imagine what it would feel like to hear the word “inoperable”, I thought “growth” “malignant” “lymphnodes” and “distant Metastasis” were horrible enough……
Hooray, your dad made it out and had a good time visiting! I love when my dad has a plan and it happens. Ah, the things one takes for granted when healthy.
By the way, that is so cute how excited your mum gets to go grocery shopping, and what a great son you are to take her. Careful though, the highlight of my moms day is the grocery store, and she goes everyday, sometimes for one item, or she will drive 10 miles to get something on sale. My dad who cant stand any kind of shopping or driving far for that matter, is always laughing b/c he says she will spend $ 10.00 in gas to drive to some produce store and buy $4.00 worth of grapes. It’s true though. I dont say anything to her – that might be me one day when Im retired! -
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