walkingthepath
Forum Replies Created
-
AuthorPosts
-
walkingthepathMember
I agree to go to the ER or Cancer Center immediately if you have quick rise in temp above 102 along with vomiting, or chills. I almost waited too long in October and ended up 10 days in hospital with an enterobacter infection. For me, the infections seem to happen when they change the stent/drain. Any time you push stuff in or out of the body there’s a chance of either introducing a pathogen or stirring one up. Got another lesser infection two weeks ago but was only four days in hospital because I came in sooner.
Overall, I have had too many “close calls”. I’m in the hospital again because I got dehydrated and my kidneys failed. I thought I was just suffering from really bad constipation (which caused me to vomit a lot because nothing would go down). I was constipated but by waiting three days to come in I lost so much water that I was nearly critical when I got I here. Lots and lots of fluids and I’m on the mend but…
Really – trust your body. If something’s not right look into it ASAP. Better safe than sorry.
walkingthepathMemberRX of Hawaii may be just the trick to put your recovery back in gear. And even if not – what the heck – you’re going to Hawaii!
You’ve made me rethink my priorities – I’m taking my family to Europe this summer come hell or high water.
All the best to you, Byron. Stay high in the saddle and I’ll meet you at the next hitching post.
Michael
walkingthepathMemberIf by external stent they mean internal/external, where the stent is a perforated tube in the duct with a tube that goes outside of the body, then I am surprised that that wasn’t done before the internal stent. I had two internal/external stents (both ducts) for a while and was so happy to have them internalized. But I knew because the doc told me that they would get clogged and need to be cleaned occasionally. That’s what I thought was happening a few weeks ago, but it turned out that the tumor had grown up past the steel stents and was crushing the duct above the stent. So now I have another internal/external stent. But enough about me.
The external part of the stent is a tube ending in a valve outside of the body. If there is blockage in the duct, a “bili-bag” much like a urine bag is attached to it to take the overflow.
The advantage to the tube is that the docs can insert a wire to manipulate the stent and can insert contrast dye to check to see how the duct is working, all without any sedation or pain, just a fluoroscope and a quick check and the doc has a full picture.
Disadvantages are many. The tube hurts and may make it hard to take a full breath. There is pain after the tube is put in that may be significant for a while – it certainly has been painful for me. The tube is held down by stitches which can pull out. It is difficult to take a shower because you need to waterproof the hole in your body and the dressing and tube coming out of it. You will need to flush the line with saline on a regular schedule, and also change the dressing. If a drain bag is needed, you need to incorporate the bag into your daily wearing apparel – usually the bag is warn hanging from the neck so that the drain point inside the bag is about nipple level or higher, so that the bag doesn’t drain liquids from the intestines all the time. You will need to empty the bag (if you have to have one) and keep everything clean. The tube and stent will need to be replaced – how often depends on how often it gets clogged but every 8 weeks or so is probably a fair estimate.
Unfortunately, if your internal stent isn’t working, the external tube is the only way to go. I can only offer my experience with this and hope your experience is positive. As always, please have your mom talk to her doctor about the effects of any procedure, get her to write her and your questions down before the visit, and go with her or have a friend go to have another set of ears to catch anything that mom might miss.
God bless and prayers for your mother,
MichaelwalkingthepathMemberHello Mrs. Austin and family,
I am very much like your husband with regard to the difficulty eating. It amazes me that I am able to be hungry and also unable to put anything in my mouth at the same time. It is incredibly frustrating and and without food the lack of energy made me start to give up. Please don’t let that happen! I think I’ve got a solution for now because after losing 35 pounds over two months I’m beginning to GAIN weight and my appetite is back.
You might try asking for Marinol which is synthetic THC (yes the drug in marijuana). It helped for a few weeks but got less effective after that.
Then my onc put me on Dexamethasone (a.k.a. Decadron I think?), a steroid (tiny pill) once a day in the AM. Half an hour after the dex and I feel hungry and for three weeks have been able to eat a full breakfast, lunch and dinner with snacks in between. Have GAINED a couple of pounds!
I’ve also found that, if I DON’T eat a full breakfast, the effect is not as good later in the day. It’s true: Breakfast is the most important meal of the day!
Hope this works for you. Don’t give up, don’t let doctor indolence stop you from demanding that your husband get the care he deserves, and don’t sweat getting a second or third opinion even if you have to pay for it – the universe will provide for you if you ask. Heck, I never believed we could afford to have a baby and now she’s 14 and the most beautiful thing in the world, and we’re not broke. Go figure.
Peace,
MichaelwalkingthepathMemberThank you all for the kind wishes. Still in hospital as they haven’t identified what bug is in there, possibly only a release of a small pocket into the blood that the white cells gobbled up as they should, leaving little to trace. Temp, heart rate and pain spiked again last night so another round of fluid cultures to wait for. Abdomen really distended but ultrasound says no fluid. SEVERE bouts of liver pain especially around the tube entry site – this stent is not going to get internalized. Three days with only drops of bile overflow into the bag but today filled the bag three times – must be back pressure from the distension. Have doubled the base pain med to 20mg OxyContin 3x day which has finally (crossed fingers) brought the pain back to heel. This is a roller coaster!
MichaelwalkingthepathMemberMargaret, If Tom is up to it you might want to get an evaluation from Dr. Bulent Arslan at Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa. I didn’t think it would be possible to join the left and right stents together at the junction into the main duct, but he had done it successfully three times and those patients have been clear over a year. We talked about it for a while, there is of course a chance that the joint could be susceptible to infection, but I would rather treat infections occasionally than manage the external tubes daily. Not all is internal yet, there are tiny tubes still in until we can confirm that all is well, and thanks to the infection I’ve got a PICC line on my arm which is probably permanent unless I start chemo and need a port.
Thank you everyone for the cheering words. It is indeed good to be home!
MichaelwalkingthepathMemberWell I decided to internalize the tubes. We put in two steel/teflon shunts in the left and right ducts, joined at the main branch through the magic of Dr. Arslan. This should keep the tumor from closing the ducts, at least for a year or two. We’ll deal with figuring out how to replace them when we cross that bridge. Another week with two #5 access tubes, then no more external tubes!
Except for the PICC line, which is going to be around for a while. Just as well because I need to take IV antibiotics at home for four weeks. Stupid bacterial infection. The PICC line is kinda cool, though. I love technology.
Going home today! Ten days in hospital is ten days too much.walkingthepathMemberPam,
Best wishes for a safe trip and successful round.
Namaste,
MichaelwalkingthepathMemberMarion,
How are advocates selected? I realize that you are one and I thank you for that. What I don’t understand is, for each individual trial run is there an advocate chosen? Does the advocate represent the patients in only the one trial they personally participated in? Or, more likely, have I misunderstood some key concept? I think it would be great to see a patient’s voice on those micro-print drug inserts!walkingthepathMemberThanks Margaret,
The colored liquids appear in both the left duct bag and the right. The left catheter is larger and older, the right catheter is only a few days installed and still flowing slowly. So liquids appeared first and primarily in the left bag. When the left bag was lifted above the shoulder, liquids flowed freely into the right bag. Tests so far have not found a fistula or other likely path such as a mis-placed catheter.
Thank you so much for your posts and concern!
MichaelwalkingthepathMemberAdam,
I am so sorry to hear of the difficulties your wife is having. I am no expert on anything though I am finding that cc is a disease that can do unexpected things. There is no reason not to believe that cc might not let up and give your dear wife the clearness of mind he deserves. Call me naiive, I think that’s better than being pessimistic.
Regarding the 5-FU: If she is still taking that chemo, there was a very interesting study done at Moffitt Hospital (where I am now a guest) finding increased remission rates using a chinese medicine herbal concoction called “Bing De Ling” in concert with 5-FU. If your oncologist has an open mind I believe that he will agree that it bears trying. A link to information is here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16008516
Dr. Zhao, one of the study authors, just started giving me Bing De Ling along with acupuncture and other herbs (though I’ve had to stop taking it while in hospital).
Regarding your blessed children: It is so hard for grown-ups, let alone children, see the good things in someone so ill. There is a way to preserve the best of times for you and your children. I urge you, if you can, to bring a tape recorder (a video recorder is even better if your wife accepts it) to her bedside whenever she is coherent and able to talk. Ask her about her life – where she grew up: what was school like for her; how did you two meet; how did she feel when each of your children was conceived and born; what are her fondest memories of her children, you, and her life, etc. This is what I did over the course of several years with my grandmother once I’d started to see her decline. Grandma had amazing stories to tell about her journey to America, coming through Ellis Island, and starting a family. My wife and I lost Grandma quickly through medical complications. We get so much comfort, and my daughter has learned so much about her family, through these recordings.
Seeing their dear mother change so quickly before their eyes has to be traumatic to your blessed children. I hope that you will find a way to help them remember the good things, should the worst occur.
Do try to keep a positive outlook – this discussion board has amazing stories of the surprising turnarounds that can and do occur every day thanks to the grace of God.
My prayers are with you and your family. Much love to you all,
MichaelwalkingthepathMemberMarion, Yes the team here has treated over 200 CC patients. The problem with liquids and solids is that there is obviously a direct route from the digestive tract into the bile ducts. Anything I eat or drink has a high chance of contaminating the liver. Until we find out what that route is, a regular diet is unlikely.
walkingthepathMemberMargaret, Great post and thank you for all the information. I’m confused by the bilirubin numbers you gave in the tens of thousands. Are we using a different scale? I love tegaderm, too. It is pricey, but worth it. Your bandage change instructions are pretty close to how we do it, except the doctor specifically said not to flush and didn’t give us a syringe. The medical stores won’t give us one without a prescription. I will definitely have a talk with my doctor about that. Thank you again! Everyone on this site is so helpful!
walkingthepathMemberThe plot thickens… I haven’t been allowed to eat anything solid since Mon night. The docs had me only on ice chips until Tues night, when I got some fruit juice. Weds morn started great with breakfast of clear liquids and thin oatmeal, but I was happy. Then I was put back on ice chips because my blood pressure shot up. Finally Thurs noon I got a cherry popsicle! Imagine my surprise when, a minute later, what looked like blood started to fill my left duct bag. The doctor said it looked like the food coloring from the popsicle was going to the bile duct. Strange, but at least not blood. But when dinner came, immediately after drinking 100ml of cranberry juice, 100ml of red color appeared in the bag. Same for the jello and iced tea, except different colors. The bag was emptied, then 200 ml of broth was consumed and went straight into the bag. When the bag was lifted above the head (Thursday) fluids filled the right duct bag. So, other than test fluids, I’ve been on a no anything diet for a day. Can’t say I like it. Ultra sound and xray have found nothing yet, though the CT is still being evaluated. Has anyone heard of this? Oh, and the bilirubin dropped to 13 (not 10), I was given the wrong number. And it has stabilized at 13.
walkingthepathMemberByron,
I spent a lot of my youth in Scottsdale, AZ. We didn’t have our own horses but lots of my neighbors and friends did. Probably rode more horses than bikes and dirt bikes. I really liked quarter horses. Fun to ride and nowhere near the high maintenance of Arabians. Haven’t ridden in years, guess I need to get back in the saddle.
Anyway, good news – turns out I got a bacterial blood infection from the bile ducts. If I’d (been able to) waited another day to come I probably would have been critical or worse. They’ll have the name of the nasty bug late tomorrow or maybe Friday. Then two days more IV antibiotics in the hospital and home care after that.
Still haven’t pinned down the belly pain but my bilirubin went from 20 on Monday night to 10 today. Hoping this oral anti-itch med I just took kicks in soon.
Y’all keep up the good fight! -
AuthorPosts