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Thank you Marion and Patty. At this time, she has stents, not tubes. When they were put in we had hoped that she would have more time and that the internal draining would enable her to return to her group home… Unfortunately, that never came to be and now she is basically sleeping and vomitting in 15 minute intervals. What is so frustrating is that the hospice drs. feel that sedation is the way to go but she has had such terrible reactions to everything tried (including Lorazepam, ativan…) The dr really doesn’t want to put her on phenobarbitol because that will just put her in a deep deep sleep and it’s a last ditch measure. So for now we plod on taking turns caring for my poor sister. (Good thing that we are a large family with many of us rotating to help out.) Thank you again to all of you friends, Belle
belleSpectatorHi Elizabeth. My sister is now in hospice care as well. One night she was quite confused and we were very worried. The drs. said what Patty posted. As the liver deteriorates, at times there are toxins which reach the brain and confusion sets in. The upside is that at least for now, with my sister, as Patty indicated it comes and goes. Take care, Belle
belleSpectatorThank you to all of you who responded to my plaintive cry. Brenda, the reason that they are continuing to hydrate her is simply because that’s what they were doing until now. Making another decision to stop hydration is another very big step (which is under consideration) but we’ll see. The palliative care team will do whatever the patient and family wants which is a real comfort. I have only the best to say about our experience with the hospice care drs. and nurses. Once again, thank you and i’ll try to keep in touch. Belle
belleSpectatorHi Iris, I’m glad to see you on this site as well. My sister also has these fever bouts which the drs. say are infection related. She takes tylenol to lower the fever and stop the shakes and the antibiotics which we hope will help as well. All this was done through the palliative care drs. as she will not be hospitalized again. Hope this helps some and I’m thinking of you, Belle.
belleSpectatorThank you, Sara for your post. Up until this point, my sister was being cared for by the surgeons and drs. in Sloan Kettering. As I had posted earlier, my sister is a mildly mentally handicapped adult who was living in a group home and held down a job (easy one) until her diagnosis in January. After an unsuccessful resectioning (mets to liver and abdomen), they put drains and then stents in, did one radiation treatment that didn’t do much and that was really it. Because she is mentally handicapped, chemo was not an option. She can communicate and when she is in pain she tells us, but more often than not it’s the dizziness and the terrible vomitting and nausea that plagues her. I took Jeff’s lead and she’s on Xanax now for the anxiety and I’m hoping she’ll be a bit better. Yes, my parents (who are caring for her) are in constant touch with the hospice doctors and caregivers and they plan to care for her at home. (She was give hydration today, so it was a better day.) I hope I’ve answered some questions about her case because now unfortunately it’s more about palliative care than oncology. Thanks to all.
belleSpectatorSo sorry, Holly, to hear your sad news. The exact same thing happened with my sister. We were so hopeful that the operation would give her hope and then it seems to be dashed so forcefully and irrevocably. It must be a sad day for you and your family and I send you my thoughts and hopes. Belle.
belleSpectatorJeff, thanks for answering. It’s so interesting, because as I’ve told you, my sister is capable of communicating (she had a job till she got sick!!). From time to time, she complains of a pain in her abdomen but that’s really it for actual pain. Is cc associated with severe pain? I’m shocked to read it! If you’d have asked me, I’d have said, thank G-d at least she isn’t in horrible pain. (not that dizziness and vomitting isn’t painful) but not the type of pain associated with different cancers. I will speak to my parents immediately. YOu have definitely added an additional angle to the whole situation. Thanks and I’ll keep you posted.
belleSpectatorSorry to hear about your mom. My sister had the same terrible itching and the Drs. in Sloan Kettering say that that is the bile build up and the only real relief is to have drains/stents put in to open the bile ducts. The relief then is immediate and dramatic. As Jeff says, she needs action quickly to help that horrible itching. Good luck and hope that the slow wheels in the hospital turn a bit quicker for your mom…
belleSpectatorHi Irene. Sorry to hear of your shocking diagnosis, but thumbs up to the hope for successful treatment. My sister was also completely asymptomatic until she turned yellow and was very itchy. By that time, she already had large liver tumors besides the klatskins in the bile ducts and a resection was impossible. So I guess the light grey (I refuse to call it silver) lining in the cloud is that they seem to have caught your tumors relatively early. So good luck and this board really is an excellent resource.
belleSpectatorThank you for the input, especially the anti anxiety drugs which is something new we haven’t tried yet. And yes, Jeff, she was in the hospital this week for stent cleaning/infection and had a scan that shows advancing tumors but no blockages. So….
belleSpectatorOf course we believe it…why not? Cancer is not a beneficial investment for insurance companies. You take a cold drink and we’re rooting for you…PS, my sister who is disabled and has cc was told by the dr.that her Medicaid is suspended and she could not make an appt till it was worked out…Just what my parents needed. It seems unfair that the red tape and insurance business almost take as much time and emotional energy as the patient and the disease itself. Sorry that was more vent than comfort, so you can see we’ve been there and done that too. Best of luck with it all and the heat too.
belleSpectatorThanks to you all for replying. We do have a plan for when things go from worse to worst, hospice care and all. It’s what you were describing, Marion, the fluctuating days that were puzzling us all. Is this the usual pattern? Sometimes OK days and other times terrible? I guess when she has a bad few days, we all get panic stricken–OK this is it. Then bingo–she’s going strawberry picking with my other sister and things settle down for a few days again. Once again it’s good to know that I can click my mouse a few times and get encouragement and information we need to keep on bumping along.
belleSpectatorJeff, thank you for taking the time to answer my post. She is getting weaker and weaker. I hadn’t seen my sister in 4 weeks and her deterioration was incredible. To answer some of the questions, I should begin with the fact that my sister is a special needs adult who was living in a group home with other highly functional yet mentally retarded adults until January, when she was diagnosed.
It is therefore very difficult to “push” her to eat or go out or do anything, for that matter. She understands that she is sick, but not that it is terminal. She is on antibiotics to keep her stents infection free, as well the line they put in to take blood etc. She does take anti-nausea drugs when she is having an off day. That is the interesting thing. One day she can be so ill and dizzy and weak that she literally can’t pick her head off the pillow. Other days are somewhat better and she’ll go out a bit.
My parents (who are not so young either) are caring for her and we as siblings (large family) are helping by rotating and doing what we can. We just wish we knew…so what’s next. Thank you again for your listening eyes, Belle.
belleSpectatorI happpened to be on a website called cancercompass.com and saw some posts about DAVANAT being on trial for some forms of bile duct cancer. Maybe worth checking? Good luck.
belleSpectatorSorry to hear of your sad news. We had the same experience with my sister and it’s somehow so difficult to switch gears. Here you know you’re going to have this big surgery and a hard recovery, but it’s for the ultimate cure. Then, you’re left with the big scar, hard recovery, and few choices that point to cure. When the refocus completes, you’ll feel more optimistic. Yes, the surgical cure was not in the cards for you, but they have other tricks in their dr. bags and hopefully you’ll chug on like the rest of us…
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