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June 24, 2010 at 4:10 am in reply to: pet peeves of cancer.the small stuff i hate. go ahead and add your own #38612beth-oSpectator
I hate that I am at a place in my life where I CAN eat desert first….then they handed me a pill that makes chocolate taste awful (you guessed it Xeloda!)
there is no justice!
oh and to “Mother” your ache reaches right through this computer and touches a person. Your love for your mom is amazing. you will always hear her advice and loving words and as someone who has lost a parent/ friend I can also tell you, you will talk to her all the time. I just wish you could do it much more literally. Stay in touch, there is a great deal of support here.
When you have the strenght, make a statement that her life mattered and get active!- Your grief is a powerful tool.
beth-oSpectatorjulia
i hope things go well for your sisters follow up. Many of us understand what she is going through in our own way. I think it is a process getting back to …something that will help define things for you outside of a disease. Encourage your sister to really think about who she is. A sister, a friend, Mother? Wife? and then the same with work. The next step is to explore what each of these things means. My sister was going through a rough divorce when i was home the first year. I used to say to her, my liver might be lousy but my ears work great. It felt great to help someone else.
I also started attending meetings for a local charity. I did not offer to do much in the begining and often made sure it was somthing I could do if I felt well and skip if I didn’t. Tonight I was voted on to the board of dirrectors! She will find her spot, it just takes time and patience.
thanks for being her support. we all need sisters, cancer or not.beth-oSpectatorMargaret- good pick up. I didn’t want to get into my story too much but yes, there was an infection.- 2 years ago and now healed. So Kristin, hang in there. Glad you don’t feel alone.
beth-oSpectatorLainy- sorry to hear the news of no surgery. Has he ever tried Avastin? It is an option to discus with the onc. It has not been studied in cc but it had in renal cell ca and lung ca in a palliative setting and has had some decent reults just keeping things at bay. If he is feeling that good maybe this would just keep him there longer. Worth a try. It is a 10 minute IV every 2 weeks with little side effects….unless he has a history of GI bleed.
Good luck. Glad to hear you are still dancing. There isn’t much better.June 9, 2010 at 2:05 am in reply to: pet peeves of cancer.the small stuff i hate. go ahead and add your own #38596beth-oSpectatoroh my goodness. I think this might have been one of the best experiences I have had since this dam diagnosis! I am so glad to tell everyone of you that I hate just about everything on this list so far…
farting burping, constipation and just never knowing what my system will do day to day
the scar, the roll of skin that now hangs on my abdomen because I spent 10 months after my surgery bigger than I ever was pregnant.
The numbness, if it wasn’t bad enough in my abdomen I got a pleural effusion and had to have surgery on my chest so now I cant feel my right nipple!
I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE being stuck in the stinky, dirty, no sleep to be found, bad food ridden hospital 20 miles from my kids and my bed and my food and my husband and my life.
I hate not being able to work. sounds funny but I miss giving back.
xeloda, well if it works I’ll put up with anything but man I hated how it made me feel, and how it tasted and smelled….
no energy, feeling short tempered with the two people I want so desperately to raise….I hate thinking they will remember a mom who was “sick” because I was always so strong, so fit, never afraid to try something new and push myself as far as I could.
I hate not being able to have sex whenever I want because I don’t feel well, or I stink!
Drains, pain, nausea, bills, anxiety attacks, insomnia, not being able to enjoy a book because I have no attention span or memory…
and the list goes onBut I LOVE my life and I (and I am 100% sure each and everyone of you) would will and do put up with it all because we just can’t imagine throwing in the towel and giving it up. We must go on, we must shout, we must use every last drop of energy we have to let the world know this crappy ass disease is a killer and takes vibrant healthy worthwhile people from this journey everyday and I HATE there there doesn’t seem to be much interest getting research going for us all.
Chin up, pull yourself together and sojurn on….
beth-oSpectatorKristin
I had 2 drains going home after some surgery a couple of years ago. I have read through a bit of the other coments you have made to try to visualize the tube. The stitch. I imagine is just holding it in so it wont fall out? If that is the case it must hurt when it pulls, probably something as simple as gravity would be uncomfortable. You could take some silk tape and rip it length wise like a long skinny strip. Use that as the anchor to keep the tube in. Then if there is any pulling it would pull on the tape first (The tape needs to be tighter than the stitch)- the other thing is the leaking. So When you say the drain bag is collecting bile and the tube is leaking I am thinking you are leaking bile around the tube site? So there are a couple of ways to approach this. First you could take the gauze and make a slit so that you could slip it around the tube at the insertion site. Snug it down and tape it tight. If that doesn’t work you could ask for an ostomy bag. What you would do there is take the drain bag you have, place it and the tube inside and then cut the part that attaches to the skin just big enough to go around your tube where it goes into your skin. These work great because they are made to handle getting wet without falling off, they are also made to withstand bile salts and gastric acids without breaking down and finally once you get the hang of it and it is on there good, you only need to change it like every 4 days….giving your skin a rest. That was actually what finally worked for me.
If all else fails or if you can’t get anywhere with the MD ask if you can see the skin care nurse or the ostomy nurse. They do amazing work. You need to stay on it though because having that wet bile on your skin all the time will hurt like heck. It is like acid…well, it is a gastric acid and it feels like it is burning because it is burning you! One other tip on the pain. You could ask for some spray to use here and there esp with dressing changes …I forget the name of it but, it is the spray they use on little kids before they put in an IV. It numbs the skin for a few minutes, long enough to get the dressing back on.I hope this helps. I know just were you are ….and feeling like you can’t leave the house due to drainage and stink (you didn’t mention the smell but mine smelled awful!) It is hard , but hey your granmother doesn’t mind if you are damp or smelly! She used to bounce you on her knee when you were like that. Find a way to go soak up some of her love. THAT will be the best medicine you can get!
Hang in there, your comrad in arms-
Beth Obeth-oSpectatorPaa member,
Do you know who you spoke to at NYP?
I have looked at the Utah and Nebraska sites and will contact Utah on Monday. Those of you who mention Mayo, is that in Mn or in Fl. ? Do you know a surgeonos name to research?
Thanks to everyone who responded I will keep you all up dated on my quest. At this point it is just for information.
I am holding strong now since September and will get new films this week.
BETH Obeth-oSpectatoryes. i mean surgery was 2 years ago and now there is new evidence of disease in the remaining liver but that is all and it has been stable for 6 months. so i am not asking about transplant for those who are unresectable at diagnosis. I am wondering if anyone knows of a trial or a center where they are being more aggressive with transplants. It is an odd question, I know.
Sorry for the confusion.beth-oSpectatorwas this for an original surgery or for a second surgery?
beth-oSpectator2reasons 2 fight. I will be 39 in a couple of weeks. I was diagnosed 11/07. I found out I had cancer the day my son turned 1 yr old and just 3 weeks before my daughter turned 4. Your note took my breathe away.
I truely know your sense of fear. I used to have these moments ,when I would suddenly become overwhelmed by fear for my children. I called them “waves of terror”. They get better. And…almost go away completely.
I had my surgery (liver resection) and had my chemo (gem and cisplatin…the gem is the important part it is the only med that has shown any resonse in our disease…not enough studies) and life slowly got back to our new “normal”.
9/09, just 6 weeks after I finished a mini tri athlon, another shock. It is back, in what is left of my liver. So here we go again.
I think all of the positve stories you hear help. They are filled with hope and love. and that is really all we can do. Fill our selves up with hope and love and believe in it.
One last thing I can’t say loud enough is, be your own advocate. You are already doing that if you found your way here. Remember if a plan does not sound good to you…it is not your plan. Look under every stone to find the one that is.
Oh, and laugh….a lot.
Beth Obeth-oSpectatorCinnamin
RUN!!!- Get a block of his tissue and 8 slides, a copy of his initial visit and his latest visit notes. If the notes don’t include lab values get them too, you’ll need a copy of all films put on a CD. Then you get on line and figure our where you want to go to get a second opinion. Just about any insurance, even medicare, allows a second opinion on cancer care. There are oncologists these days that specialize in oncology in the elderly patient (a geriatric oncologist). His age is not the issue. Hi performance status and his co-morbid diseases (if any) are. So, as many have posted if he is an active man ,with no other liver, kidney or heart disease he has the options most of us have. I’d also like to stress that options also inclued medications that are not even chemo therapy at this point like Avastin. And there are also oral chemo therapies so he doesn’t need to go in for treatment as often he can take pills at home.
In the end it is your DAD who should have the final say and he can only do that when he is making a fully informed decision. Pack him up and go…..keep us posted!
You are doing a good job daughter.
Beth Obeth-oSpectatorDear Kay-
there are so many beutiful posts I have read. I am glad you landed on this web site. I am a new member and I am overwhelmed by the support here. There are also many answers about the disease too. So, search and ask.
I’d also like to share that after placing both of my grandparents and my father on hopsice and being able to keep them in the place they had called “home” I later had the distinct honor of holding each of them as their spirit left and their body slowly took its last breath. As time has passed I think of it as a final gift I was able to give to them. Helping them to remain comfortable, in control and their dignity intact was a gift to me as well. As a patient, I hope that when the time does come, (my plan is many years from now) that my husband is able to do the same for me.
Welcome and good job.
Many blessings
Beth Obeth-oSpectatorCelest-
what great news for you! I have recently been diagnosed with metastatic disease and am having a hard time sorting it out. I too am on the oxali but I take an oral med called xeloda for 7 days after and Avastin. I have the same issues, the nuropathy happened after the 3rd dose. And it made my arm super sensitive. I have a port now. Its easier. Today while getting the med my toes started to feel funny. So I guess from what you said my next treatment will be about 2 hours longer. Do you have trouble eating cold things? I cant drink or eat anything that isn’t at least room temperature. I love green tea with ginger. It feels great. (with a touch of sugar) and a chemo nurse told me to eat off of plastic silverware to loose some of the metalic taste. It worked! Do you have any tips to share?
I am also trying to work through this. I do 3 days a week because my kids just turned 3 and 6 in the last month….so I really don’t want to do more. Besides my days are long, 10 or 12 hours at work then 1/2 hour home. When I am home and off the steroids ….I feel like I am always taking a nap but at least I am here with them and we can read a book or color or do a puzzle in bed. My husband is great about making time for me to nap. He’s going to try grocery shopping with the kids this weekend! Good luck to him!
Hang in there. I am thankful and glad you shared your news. It helped me today.
beth Obeth-oSpectatorZ-
Good for you. I am glad you got some good news. Who would have thought we’d be so happy to hear we should get more chemotherapy? Who would have theought we’d want it?!? It is strange how life changes. About your surgery, if you are thinking whipple, I have read the best thing you can do, to make sure your surgery statistics are good, is to go to a hospital that does a high volume of them. (A surgeon who does one a week or more)
I have no idea what you have locally but places who have a pancreatic cancer program are places that do many whipples. – just a thought since you were kind enough to share..I thought I would too. keep up the good work!
Beth Obeth-oSpectatorOOPS MY HAND MUST HAVE CLICKED SEND TOO SOON-
BEAN 1969- I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THE BILE DUCTS ARE KIND OF THE PLUMBING IN OUR LIVER…AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE A BILE DUCT TUMOR IT CAN BE IN A FEW PLACES. IT CAN BE IN THE GALLBLADDER, THE LIVER, IN THE AREA OF THE PANCREASE. THNGS LIKE THAT. WHEN THEY TAKE IT OUT AND STAIN IT UP UNDER, TO LOOK UNDER THE SCOPE THAT IS HOW THEY FIGURE OUT IF IT STARTED IN THE DUCTS OR STARTED IN THE LIVER. SO BILE DUCT CANCER, THAT STARTED IN THE BILE DUCTS OF THE LIVER, IS STILL BILE DUCT CANCER. A LONG TIME AGO IT WAS ALL BUNCHED UP AS LIVER CANCER BUT NOW WE SEPARATE THEM OUT. GOOD NEWS IS, OUR STATISTICS ARE BETTER THAN A PRIMARY LIVER CANCER…ONLY MARGINALLY BUT I’LL TAKE THE STATISTIC THAT DOES SOMETHING GOOD FOR US FOR A CHANGE!
HOPE THAT HELPS. EVERY ONE OF MY 5 SIBLINGS AND MY MOM NEEDED THE SAME CLARIFICATION WAY BACK WHEN (OVER 2 YEARS AGO, I WAS DIAGNOSED.) YOU ARE NOT ALONE. -
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